3.14 Retention Rates

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LiMA6 wrote:

You are lucky. Additionally you said yesterday. Do it again tomorrow, and let us know.

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KopaKabana wrote:

My reason for quitting this game (for good, looks like) were, in this order:
-Harvest nerfs
-Minion nerfs
-Streamer privilege's
-Gaslighting and attacking of ppl who raised concerns on forums, even technical ones, by outstanding forum users. Many ppl can't voice their concerns without being attacked, reported, trolled. Basically, nasty community.
-Again, streamer privilege and for sure, streamer benefits
-Technicalities (high end pc, had to play on medium settings or lower)

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BattlebornDruid wrote:

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KopaKabana wrote:

My reason for quitting this game (for good, looks like) were, in this order:
-Harvest nerfs
-Minion nerfs
-Streamer privilege's
-Gaslighting and attacking of ppl who raised concerns on forums, even technical ones, by outstanding forum users. Many ppl can't voice their concerns without being attacked, reported, trolled. Basically, nasty community.
-Again, streamer privilege and for sure, streamer benefits
-Technicalities (high end pc, had to play on medium settings or lower)

Just wait until they come out with 3.15. With how awful 3.14 was, I'm sure they won't fail to disappoint again. But don't worry, you'll have the usual people coming on here to tell you that the game was somehow "too OP" before and deserved all the nerfs. Soon we'll be playing with negative move speed and permanent temp chains but someone will chime in and say that it's supposed to be played that way, otherwise you have too much of an advantage.

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Nubatron wrote:

New account. First post. You’re not hiding who you are very well.

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BattlebornDruid wrote:

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Nubatron wrote:

New account. First post. You’re not hiding who you are very well.

This is what I love about these forums as a lurker. The people who get triggered the easiest always jump to conclusions the fastest. I usually post on Reddit but decided to make a forum account instead and this is the first response that I am greeted with. Your audacious presumptions don't change the fact that the game was taken years backwards with 3.14 and I still have yet to see any reasonable argument for why this amount of nerfs is necessary or warranted. Have fun with your rng emulator.

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Nubatron wrote:

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demon9675 wrote:

Ultimatum was quite rippy for little reward. I do think that had an impact, possibly more so than Harvest nerfs and launch issues - the number of players who know nothing about either of those things is much higher than you’d think.

Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've made a small fortune off of Ultiamtums. I literally got 8 pure exalts yesterday from it alone. It is rippy, but to say little reward? I don't get that. That's not been my experience.

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Nubatron wrote:

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BattlebornDruid wrote:

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Nubatron wrote:

New account. First post. You’re not hiding who you are very well.

This is what I love about these forums as a lurker. The people who get triggered the easiest always jump to conclusions the fastest. I usually post on Reddit but decided to make a forum account instead and this is the first response that I am greeted with. Your audacious presumptions don't change the fact that the game was taken years backwards with 3.14 and I still have yet to see any reasonable argument for why this amount of nerfs is necessary or warranted. Have fun with your rng emulator.

Sure.

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CAKE wrote:

You got me, it was me, Mario the whole time!
min-maxing good, too much rng bad.

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demon9675 wrote:

I could just be unlucky. I full-cleared ultimatums for the 6 weeks I played (well, once i had a second character because ground slam zerker couldn’t do it very easily) and got 2 raw ex total. Plenty of chaos, sure, but no more than other leagues that had far less danger. I personally got very little given the difficulty - much less than ritual, for example - which was disappointing.

P.S. I forgot I got 2-3 ex card inscribed ultimatums early on, then NEVER again after that.

Happy to admit it’s just me and others didn’t have this experience, I just found the difficulty spike pretty ridiculous for the payoff. My armageddon brand ignite elementalist and reap unleash assassin could do them easily, specifically because I looked for builds that could, but many of my other build ideas simply would have had to skip ultimatums entirely - they were extremely exclusionary to any build that couldn’t full clear the circle instantly while running around.

Anecdotally, my friends list struggled way more this league than in the past, and many just gave up and started skipping the mechanic. After a few got extremely frustrated, I had to tell them that their non-meta build just wouldn’t be able to run ultimatums - even though juiced maps were fine.

Most leagues are released overtuned (possibly intentionally) then get a balance patch a week or two in. Ultimatum remained at week 1 difficulty, and it was just too much. Me and other veteran players being able to do ultimatums with some specific setups doesn’t mean they were working well for the broader playerbase.