PoE peaked in 3.13 and I am afraid that it may never go back up again... version:2

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Ydoum wrote:

GGG: "Oh wow, players are having so much fun!"
Also GGG: "We need it to stop"

That seems like the theme of this league, and of their direction in gameplay changes for leagues and leagues now. They nerf things from 2-3 different angles, as though nerfed by committee and the committee is not sharing notes so the same skill gets three balance passes to it at once that just wrecks it. Brands is an example of a skill class that got annihilated like this, and Harvest is the perfect example of a good mechanic that suffered the same apparent fate.

I honestly can't figure it out, as the weight of the gameplay changes has made the game less fun over time. A French streamer recently walked away, noting that "the drug has become so diluted" - and yeah, POE is becoming a really diluted experience compared to what it was and therefor what we as players know it could be.

I have played a long time and supported them but I'm about to quit too, this just isn't fun how they run things. And no accountability anymore to players, it's all just top-down, deal-with-it approach. Well, their profits are fine for now.

all they need to do is let me make my oldschool pre-2.4ish Cast on Crit build with 6 different spells and bullet hell mania.

Those who don't remember or didn't play back then: Cast on Crit used to not need to be linked to an attack, and there was no cooldown. So you could put a cast on crit set up in every piece of gear, and set them all off at once with a single attack. It was the most fun POE has ever been.

spells always had to be linked to coc with an attack but there was almost no cooldown. Then gutted to .500, and no one played it then .250, and no one played it. Finally its ok in a few builds at .150, mainly ice nova because you can cast two novas off cospri launching off frost bolt. Also purifying flame not is to bad since it hits twice but pure cyclone is at least double DPS with comparable gear.

Most spells arnt worth it though and they totally ruined dischrage both CoC and Mjolnir versions.

Perhaps you mean you could link like 3 spells to CoC and the attack and all three would fire per hit.

CWDT you could do some wild stuff though with scolds and launch spells from every slot with one cast/attack.

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jsuslak313 wrote:

all they need to do is let me make my oldschool pre-2.4ish Cast on Crit build with 6 different spells and bullet hell mania.

Those who don't remember or didn't play back then: Cast on Crit used to not need to be linked to an attack, and there was no cooldown. So you could put a cast on crit set up in every piece of gear, and set them all off at once with a single attack. It was the most fun POE has ever been.

I miss good old mathil's coc 6 spell days... Groundslam coc to win!

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

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jsuslak313 wrote:

all they need to do is let me make my oldschool pre-2.4ish Cast on Crit build with 6 different spells and bullet hell mania.

Those who don't remember or didn't play back then: Cast on Crit used to not need to be linked to an attack, and there was no cooldown. So you could put a cast on crit set up in every piece of gear, and set them all off at once with a single attack. It was the most fun POE has ever been.

I miss good old mathil's coc 6 spell days... Groundslam coc to win!

Never happened. max is was 4 spells. But back then all 4 went off per crit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zsiszaS9d8


CWDT you could launch like 20+ spells tho with scolds bittle

here is a build i made prenerf they nerfed it day I showed video/build guide lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qubKPjzc6Dw

@Aim: ur wrong bro, by about 1 or 2 years...

I made several builds where CoC was on every piece of gear, and I used cyclone on one piece of gear to proc ALL the CoCs. You could have upwards of like 8 copies of Ethereal Knives all proccing at the same time. You did NOT need to have the attack directly linked to CoC, it was a blanket Cast on Critical Strike on the entire character.

I'm talking pre map existence, back when Dominus wasn't even in the game or just introduced to the game.

My favorite build had zero supports: Coc - EK EK EK, CoC Ek EK EK, CoC Cyclone Ek EK EK life steal, and maybe another CoC or a few CWDT defensive layers

and I was wrong when I said pre-2.4. The original CoC was actually nerfed way back around November 2013 because it broke the game. This was still in 1.0...

Then it went through several other nerfs and reworks over the next two years.

But originally "Cast on Crit" was just as it sounded: when you crit, you cast the linked spell

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jsuslak313 wrote:

and I was wrong when I said pre-2.4. The original CoC was actually nerfed way back around November 2013 because it broke the game. This was still in 1.0...

Then it went through several other nerfs and reworks over the next two years.

But originally "Cast on Crit" was just as it sounded: when you crit, you cast the linked spell

This version of CoC must have existed for a very short amount of time in 1.0 on release. I remember having to adapt my build when we had the 20% chance to cast nerf in 1.2 and the nerf from 10ms to 50ms in 1.3. So I was playing CoC in 1.1 and it didn't function like you mention.

I didn't play it in 1.0 as that was my first league and I didn't know much.

I can buy that. I didnt come until invasion ambush league like 1.2 didnt play coc until like 2.0. And was always linked attack to cast when i was here. Wow couldnt imagine how op that shit was.

Anyway they really started killing coc around 2.4 with .500 ms nerfs and only one spell per crit. Still is shit even at .150 ms for 90% of spells.

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SaiyanZ wrote:

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jsuslak313 wrote:

and I was wrong when I said pre-2.4. The original CoC was actually nerfed way back around November 2013 because it broke the game. This was still in 1.0...

Then it went through several other nerfs and reworks over the next two years.

But originally "Cast on Crit" was just as it sounded: when you crit, you cast the linked spell

This version of CoC must have existed for a very short amount of time in 1.0 on release. I remember having to adapt my build when we had the 20% chance to cast nerf in 1.2 and the nerf from 10ms to 50ms in 1.3. So I was playing CoC in 1.1 and it didn't function like you mention.

I didn't play it in 1.0 as that was my first league and I didn't know much.

Who know if this place is accurate but they show nothing about any crit can cast any socket so long as CoC linked in the version history. I think maybe ninja?

https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Cast_On_Critical_Strike_Support

I do know CWDT you could and saffels broke game with pathfinder you could cast 20 lvl 20 spells just casting a curse.