Sirus/Maven = BIG NOPE

I wonder how many people have gone in blind on these bosses and one shot them. No youtube videos, no wiki descriptions, etc. Just entered the boss portal with no prior knowledge and still beat the boss without dying.

Not many people, I imagine. Mostly those with builds capable of depleting boss health bars under a second and/or builds that can literally face tank all the would-be one shots.


I regularly kill these wackos. They're not hard, at least once you get reasonably geared. They are, however, very unintuitive. I've memorized all their boss patterns and (what passes for) telegraphing of attacks, and that's why I can kill them. It's not skill, it's rote memorization.

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R3b00t wrote:

While I personally don't like the Sirus fight at all, and the last phase can be a bit random in difficulty, especially with a melee char

this is my beef with Sirus post metamorph when they introduced him, he feels real bad as melee because your uptimes so low, constantly chasing him round only to have him port which leads you to dodging all the obstructions again.

The issue is of course that the original version was too easy for an endgame boss, it certainly was easier than uber elder probably on a par with shaper.

It doesn't help his rep that he's been pretty bug riddled the whole time, chances are if it could go wrong with the Sirus fight it has gone wrong in every way.

I personally like the actual Sirus fight when he's on the ground, atleast the last phase.
The first phase when Orion is in the sky randomly dropping red stuff on you is mediocre and annoying, alot of random deaths to him.
The storm phase is so god damn garbage, I absolutely detest it.
90% of my deaths to Sirus is because I'm impatient to him camping in a storm and whenever I see an opening to start the ground phase I dash in and accidently get too close to the storm which kills me.

Both suck immensely and both are a major turn off for most players new to POE. Simple fact.

i love maven, although her loottable will be absolute crap with the new harvest changes, so not gonna farm her for the orb anymore.

sirus is just not fun at all imho. way too many stall mechanics.

best boss fight is still uber elder

Maven is completely horrible, even though you can completely skip the memory game, it's still an awful mechanic, and overall the fight is quite boring. Sirus on the other hand is a great fight when you're actually fighting him, sucks though that you spend more time waiting to fight him than actually fighthing him lol.

Ive not tried Maven so i wont comment her. To me there was no bigger cancer than original Sirus. It felt so random and frustrating. So many hours wasted just to see entrance was blocked by clouds. Whoever is responsible for implementing him in game in such state should be fired.


Perhaps bossing experience in poe would be better if it d be possible to attempt it all more frequently and bosses toned down.

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I wonder how many people have gone in blind on these bosses and one shot them. No youtube videos, no wiki descriptions, etc. Just entered the boss portal with no prior knowledge and still beat the boss without dying.

Not many people, I imagine. Mostly those with builds capable of depleting boss health bars under a second and/or builds that can literally face tank all the would-be one shots.

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Both suck immensely and both are a major turn off for most players new to POE. Simple fact.

Crafting and bosses are primary reason why my friends who like fast pace arpg dont give a crap about poe. Typical rant is "why you have wow alike bossfights in arpg thats just dumb".

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kaijyuu2 wrote:

I regularly kill these wackos. They're not hard, at least once you get reasonably geared. They are, however, very unintuitive. I've memorized all their boss patterns and (what passes for) telegraphing of attacks, and that's why I can kill them. It's not skill, it's rote memorization.

Exactly.

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EKTELESTES wrote:

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kaijyuu2 wrote:

I regularly kill these wackos. They're not hard, at least once you get reasonably geared. They are, however, very unintuitive. I've memorized all their boss patterns and (what passes for) telegraphing of attacks, and that's why I can kill them. It's not skill, it's rote memorization.

Exactly.

what's worse is the boss design doesn't allow you to learn the moves either
first time ever? semi-decent build, capable of killing them, but never seen the moves? you get 6 chances
miss those 6 chances? repeat hours of playtime to unlock the boss again
"but only one on hardcore!!111" you don't go into a boss blind in hardcore

Literally what other game does this? Tons of MMOs, RPGs, or other games have super hard levels or bosses or modes or challenges, but I can't think of one that punishes you so hard by deleting hours of your time spent.
It's just demoralizing, which makes defeating the boss 100 times better, but most people who get demoralized leave

PoE is by the hardcore for the hardcore, but I don't see why that means boss designs have to suck

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kaijyuu2 wrote:

I wonder how many people have gone in blind on these bosses and one shot them. No youtube videos, no wiki descriptions, etc. Just entered the boss portal with no prior knowledge and still beat the boss without dying.

Not many people, I imagine. Mostly those with builds capable of depleting boss health bars under a second and/or builds that can literally face tank all the would-be one shots.


I regularly kill these wackos. They're not hard, at least once you get reasonably geared. They are, however, very unintuitive. I've memorized all their boss patterns and (what passes for) telegraphing of attacks, and that's why I can kill them. It's not skill, it's rote memorization.

they dont let you one shot them..phases and all..it's GGG's way to challenge huge DPS builds.

And yeah memory game sucked My memory sucks so died plenty to maven