The most stable PoE build of all time to invest on?

They can do delirius maps, but I wouldnt recommend summoners for it. Thing that explode entire screen with one click will be better (AI of summons can sometimes be wonky and you can end up dying in that 1s before spectres decide to attack)

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Aynix wrote:

They can do delirius maps, but I wouldnt recommend summoners for it. Thing that explode entire screen with one click will be better (AI of summons can sometimes be wonky and you can end up dying in that 1s before spectres decide to attack)

That doesn't sound very OP.

To get a feeling on how spectre summoners are played, I recommend Kay's guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2181275/page/1

See the "Spectre Showcase" section, where it has videos for most popular spectres. Notice that always the character goes in first.

Yes, character goes first. Thats exactly what I said before - people sacrifice safety for speed.

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6_din_49 wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

Spectres (and summoners in general) were always very good, but alos very boring. The best defense in PoE is to not get hit. Summoners have that in their skill - minions can tank and kill everything while you just watch from safety.

That's not how minions work. You need to be close to the danger zone if you want your minions to attack your targets consistently. To not get hit, you need to kill enemies before they see you, which minions can't really do consistently, unlike bow/wand/most of spell skills.

The main advantage as minionmancer, is that you can loot and move while your minions are doing the killing, which is great early, when you need to pick up a lot of items (alts,chromes,chaos recipe, etc).

Also, auras don't work for minions unless you are in reasonable proximity. Even with generosity/AOE notables/necro aegis/all the trimmings, you still need to be in the same room with them.

This may mean going in first, it may also mean using spell totems or something else cheap to put them on the scent of something ahead of you.

Not always easy to coordinate if you have a mixed crew (ranged and melee minions need to be in different locations w/r/t targets to do damage).

Meanwhile, enemies auto target YOU and not minions by default, unless you have a way of taunting or physically obstructing them they will bypass all your goons and dogpile you.

Adds that spawn onPlayerLocation are another problem because they will simply spawn right on top of you and your defences/meatshield guys may not be able to handle it. This is one of the main reasons intervention and delirium encounters are still hard for summoners despite layers upon layers of stacking. It's why Baranite fuckers are still rippy because they spawn storm call BS right on top of you and are not fooled by an advance squad of deadguys.

Reave! I've played it almost every league for 6 leagues over 3 years, including Heist.

Man that's some hate for Dominating Blow lol.

It sounds like some disparity on build theory here. You don't need accuracy at all since you don't need crit at all. You don't actually need good melee combat skills with your own character you just need to hit things. So you pick up Resolute technique.

The jankiness is due to how strike skills work for sure (why it wont get nerfed imho, grab the extra strike near the bottom of the tree, Tribal Fury) but it has solid defenses with a shield and life stacking, and its offense is pretty top tier. Just focus on lots of Ghastly Jewels to get flat life since you go past all of the big ticket life% nodes on the left side, and with minion buffs to speed (maybe some utility like blind and taunt, maybe some minion accuracy depending where u are at in POB).

Eventually you wanna use the Scourge claw but its pretty weapon agnostic as you level, just something with decent attack speed. Scourge will save you some points on the tree and let you stick even more into life.

You can scale with Impale, or Auras, or Curses along with minion buffs.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

Reave! I've played it almost every league for 6 leagues over 3 years, including Heist.

Not gonna lie, Reave is so unpopular nowadays I sometimes forget this skill exist.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

Reave! I've played it almost every league for 6 leagues over 3 years, including Heist.

Oh yea?! What happened to reave? I remembered it being somewhat popular sometime ago? Especially getting the stacks via vaal reave gem. But I see you've made a guide on it! Will definitely take a look there. Thanks !

i run sw necro every league, never fails. sometimes have adjusted. SW w/ skellies or AG

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Aynix wrote:

Not gonna lie, Reave is so unpopular nowadays I sometimes forget this skill exist.

Not a bad thing :P

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KingReaperYul wrote:

Oh yea?! What happened to reave? I remembered it being somewhat popular sometime ago? Especially getting the stacks via vaal reave gem. But I see you've made a guide on it! Will definitely take a look there. Thanks !

Not sure, it might just as well be that people got tired of playing it. Reave was giga popular 2 years ago.
Yeah, Reave right now cleans T19 100% delirious maps without HH.