Please, introduce Awakening levels beyond A8 to challenge uber-builds (e.g. >200M DPS)
" This post is full of fake claims. Please quote where we say you need mirror tier gear for 1 mil damage? Its not just hyperbole put pure fake claim. Aura effect stacking currently holding the game balance hostage and is usually combined with the list of broken things that create exponential scaling. All arguments were made based on existing builds that are completely broken and played in league not just standard. If you can provide counter arguments with actual facts that are supported by examples like PoB or Youtube performance videos im open for a discussion otherwise id say the GGG support did a good job. Last edited by zzang#1847 on Nov 6, 2020, 11:18:56 AM
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" " Do you even read the posts you claim to be the truth and on point? Last edited by Baharoth15#0429 on Nov 6, 2020, 1:00:54 PM
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1mil is bit brave but try these this challenge:
+ Cleave I would like to see a 3mil shaper dps, no flasks, build using these two swords for their intended purpose (100% chance for all ailments + ailment effect) using CLEAVE (for life gain on hit). 3mil. it is not a tall order i think. 3 mil i can get with lvl 18 summon skeletons and 10c in gear btw or any caster (mana stacker if you want safety)
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if you say: oh, but cleave is physical. or, oh but you should use better weapons. we very, very quickly end up with 'why use cleave, use cyclone/bladestorm' instead. why use elemental, use physical instead. and we end up with the same build, every time. and if we are already 'optimizing' one should as why cyclone, use spell instead, why spell use summoner instead.. this is where moving the goalpost leads us. so, elemental cleave with these two swords it is. 3mil. im not saying it is impossible but it shall cost me arm and leg to make it work.. and the end result (playstyle) is going to suck, because cleave is easily the worst skill in the game. THE WORST skill in the game. in general - unless you pick pre-set 'win' setup, you are fu... thus the 'build diversity' is a sad joke and mostly advertised by people who never played non-meta build in their lives (or never tried hard content and pretend everything is viable.. because they can kill conquerors in few portals) having tried the top end and playing many sucky builds - the quoted claim (1mil) is not true, but make that 5mil and it starts to make A LOT more sense. some builds simply have less 'more multipliers' available to them, some even start with low base value. finally some have shitty mechanics on top (low AOE/range melee is the worst archetype this game has - it checks all 3 boxes). ps. no abyssus Last edited by sidtherat#1310 on Nov 6, 2020, 1:31:34 PM
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" This is single sane solution. Mirror tier builds should be overpowered. And the aurastacker requires like 2 mirror to even start decent version. Builds with 2 mirrored items were capable of oneshotting bosses since forever, there isn't a problem. Also I don't see aurastackers complaining, it mostly redditors seeing CuteDog etc. and being permanently angry about him having more currency and better items, and then asking to nerf whatever rich players using. Too bad for them that mirror builds would always be significally better than 10ex builds. |
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" Anybody can get a million dps with the power creep of the last 3 years this isnt the relevant point. Sure it was exaggerated but it doesmt change anything. Now if you come here to tell me that everything is fine with aura stacking, aura reservation and the other listed stuff then tell me why? |
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" You picked the hyperbole and ignored everything else. How much more reasonable is it for them to have missed just the one sentence? Youj missed or ignored almost ALL of them in favor of the one thing you could nit pick. Sure you can do more than a mil dmg with heavy strike even without mirror gear... it was hyperbole after all. I personally had a Heavy strike PoB from a few leagues back that does 2.5m using SSF gear. So what? Spectre PoB's doing 100million to 200million are a youtube search away... literally well known streamers (Balor and Ghazzy) talking openly about how totally utterly broken they are. Fuck man even ZiggyD ran a broke ass Spectre build. How out of the loop are you even? Golem builds all over YT with PoB's up to 100million dps Ele hit has PoB's up on the reddit doing 55million last one I saw was about 3 leagues ago so its probably higher than 55million now. Toxic rain mines also PoB's up to 88million also common and easy to find this build was popularized by well known community member/streamer Octavian, and ofc min/maxers have improved on it. Multiple streamers are running Aura effect stackers its so busted that almost every one of the SSFHC Delve push racers was using it. Its so busted that you can make a serviceable super powerful build using ilvl61 Medium clusters farmed in Blood Aquaducts... Steelmage did this for his for example. Again you're doubting things that are very publicly verifiable. I'm naming actual popular streamers who if you're at all plugged in you should have known already were doing these things. So I can only guess you're not actually informed. But you ARE arguing... so you got uninformed arguing going for you... which is nice. Pandering to players who don't want consequences for their mistakes is a perfect description of what went fundamentally wrong with D3 and 4.
If they wanted mindless mobile game time waster gameplay they sure did make some perplexing choices and marketing statements for 6 fucking years. |
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Sirus isn't a DPS fight so that's kind of a bad example. You can fight him for an hour if you want and know his mechanics well enough. Doesn't really matter.
They already buffed the Atlas not too long ago. Buffing it again would be silly. The more apparent issue is pretty well known various builds are way beyond reasonable. Not just in DPS but their low risk in playing. I'm pushing 50M DPS on my Zerker easy, more if I put on Abysus but I'm also in melee range and running risks. Builds doing more with less risk is what is unacceptable. GGG has been designing enemies around these no-risk builds for a while in fear of the community crying about nerfs but simple fact is it must be done. Of course it doesn't help the itemization Power Creep since the Atlas buff was also far too much. "Never trust floating women." -Officer Kirac
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