So why is the chineese client a much better game than the western one?

different visions for the game

it's not that much better.

path of building is much more powerful than the ingame planner,

the "currency collecting pay to win" - pet has to be repurchased every league,

which monster did the killing blow to your char is only interesting in some scenarios, mostly it's the combination of several effects/attacks that matter towards your defeat,

the ingame trading ... well, they can't trade at all until they reached maps, do they?

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vio wrote:

it's not that much better.

path of building is much more powerful than the ingame planner,

the "currency collecting pay to win" - pet has to be repurchased every league,

which monster did the killing blow to your char is only interesting in some scenarios, mostly it's the combination of several effects/attacks that matter towards your defeat,

the ingame trading ... well, they can't trade at all until they reached maps, do they?

Better? No. Polished? Uh, yes. The website alone speaks volumes there.

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ivkoto77777 wrote:

Did westerners do something bad ot deserve punishment, or what?

Yes. Buying every mtx ggg throws out there, picking up supporter packs before the league even starts shows ggg they can do whatever they want and westerners will take it and still pay up.

You forgot to mention the ingame flask macro available on the chinese client that can be a bannable offence on the western one if you get caught.

At this point you can grovel all you want ggg ceased giving a flying dildo about westerners a long time ago.

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bewilder2 wrote:

Chinese publishers are way better than GGG. They know how to actually implement QoL features. AH / Trade feature is sensitive topic, but the in-game death log, semi-pob tree planner built in-game, and ascendancies preview are spot on. Giving GGG benefit of the doubt, maybe GGG doesn't have enough human resources to develop these kind of features as they have to develop new league every 3 months. But Chinese publisher do not, so they only received and apply the new league / new contents and have time to develop QoL features.

They are the same company! Surely when the chineese fork the game and create new features then GGG can merge them into their version of the game. Why wouldn't they want to use free development time like that?

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SaintLucifer wrote:

Different publishers, with different visions for the game, that is all...

It is not just "different", one is straight up better than the other.

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Morkonan wrote:

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Heli0nix wrote:

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I'm up for the death report addition, I consider it as essential in a type of games where you have to constantly improve your build and identify threats first, this is what is leading your gearing choices at the end of the day.
But I'm wondering does the one added to China version is working as intended and accurate enough? Anyone tested here and can confirm that?

A death-report, unless it is very verbose, is meaningless in PoE. It's usually the other fifty-eleven bits of damage that kills the player, not the last tick...

BUT, it's expected in that market to have that level of detail and that little bit of "extra something." Players can laugh about being killed by a "goblin" or some explosion-monster or whatever... But,it's meaningless because they've spent the entire encounter "standing in the fire."

I'm willing to bet some other popular game has such a report and the players now expect to see it in similar games. If it's not there, they'll complain.

That's entirely untrue. Most things that kill players are one-shots.

It is quite possible tat this feature would illustrate that problem of the game way too much and that's why is is not yet introduced here.

I like my games uncensored.

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

So the core quandary of YOUR POE seemingly being held back by the premise that this is the cost of zero p2w/pay-for-convenience hasn't yet been solved, only deferred by quibbling over minutiae.

Unless you think the fact that the p2w domestic PoE is more polished while the essentially 'pay to be competitive' international PoE is not predicated on that difference. In which case I'd love to know why you think the domestic PoE is so much more polished and feature-rich than the international.

I don't know who this was directed to, but...

First off; I don't think that the Chinese version is necessarily more polished than the international version. Sure, they have a few more QoL features, but they also have some crap I think is making it more unpolished. "Alien" pick-up pets? That's not polish, nor QoL, that's treating the symptoms in an idiotic, P2W way.

ANYHOW, this whole case shouldn't be a compromise. There shouldn't be "catches" to introducing good QoL features. Certain QoL features SHOULD be in the international version. Period. Without the need of comparing it to the Chinese version.

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ivkoto77777 wrote:

That's entirely untrue. Most things that kill players are one-shots.

No. Most non-boss things that kill you, is a result of a series of factors, often interpreted as a one-shot.

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pr13st wrote:

I like my games uncensored.

Yeah, too late for that. Or do you really think TencentGGG would bother to make stuff for the international version they'd have to just censor afterwards for the domestic version?