Surprised no one is talking about the newest GGG info on Harvest going core in 3.13

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This sounds as disappointing as it looks already just from these few words. Be ready for Synthesis treatment with Harvest where everything creative, fun, and unique about Harvest is stripped away and made into some dumbed-down version for the masses like they did with Synthesis.
What? Synthesis was massively improved mid-league. I think you're thinking of Bestiary, which was the stripped down league.
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LowBudget780 wrote:


You do not need 200ex to gear a good character in this game.

We don't NEED to buy MTX, we don't NEED to craft anything, we don't NEED a hideout, we don't NEED a lot of things.

Some people bash Harvest, but they didn't mind reaping the rewards.
I say bring on Harvest in it's full form, IMO that was the best league yet.You had so many options and weren't restricted by trade or rng from drops. The 2 main things that 99% of the people on this forum bitch about were removed in that league and yet it's the most hated league.
Man some of you people will never be happy.
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frostzor27 wrote:
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yamface wrote:
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If this is true I don't know if I'll continue to enjoy the game in the long run...

Doesn't make sense for they are making the worst part of the league core, not the best.


I fell to a fake made by yamface, dunno if it was intentionally made to get me banned...
"There's no thing like random one-shots in this game. You only die because you take 353,456,237 hits in 0.2 seconds."

"The best items in the game should not be crafted, they should be TRADED." - Cent, GGG
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This sounds as disappointing as it looks already just from these few words. Be ready for Synthesis treatment with Harvest where everything creative, fun, and unique about Harvest is stripped away and made into some dumbed-down version for the masses like they did with Synthesis.
What? Synthesis was massively improved mid-league. I think you're thinking of Bestiary, which was the stripped down league.
You're joking? Right? Let me remind you again how Synthesis was "brought back" to the game:

- Bosses only
- No Synthesiser (the main mechanic of the league)
- Random Synthesis drops
- No memory nexus, no memory fragmented zones
- Absolute rare to get maps that people only run for a chance to get the flask only, making the league mechanic essentially nonexistent and a gimmick from what it was originally in order to save money on server resources.
- Whole mechanic essentially ruined from how it was originally and made into some boring, dull and dumbed-down version for the masses who complained "League mechanic too complicated", then months later went on Reddit and said how they "miss Synthesis". You live and you learn, they don't realize what they have unless it's taken away. Now we have years of the game's own community asking when the original Synthesis mechanic will be brought back with the devs not caring enough to put in the effort to make the original mechanic go core because it would cost them too much money.

So yes, I mean what I originally said, perhaps you should revaluate how you are looking at things since many here have been accustomed to this type of treatment from the devs, where they make a fun league, get people attached to it, and then get rid of more than half of its original mechanics and make it into something un-recognizable of what it once was that people fell in love with originally as a middle finger to the players who enjoyed the league and were treated as lab rat beta testers to test material for Standard.
🔷🔶🔰🌀✨Standard>Leagues✨🌀🔰🔶🔷
🔷🔶🔰🌀✨Make trade like the Grand Exchange from RuneScape✨🌀🔰🔶🔷

Let us zoom out more. Bring back 32:9, Heist Alt Quality Gems, Gear Enchanting, Prophecy, Metamorph & Crucible. Stop removing content from the game. Stop nerfing everything. Stop making the game slow
Last edited by Smoke#4823 on Oct 9, 2020, 10:27:39 AM
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frostzor27 wrote:
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frostzor27 wrote:
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yamface wrote:
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If this is true I don't know if I'll continue to enjoy the game in the long run...

Doesn't make sense for they are making the worst part of the league core, not the best.


I fell to a fake made by yamface, dunno if it was intentionally made to get me banned...

You got banned but yamface didn't? What??
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You're joking? Right? Let me remind you again how Synthesis was "brought back" to the game:
No? I know now you're talking about the return of synthesis bosses and items even though that just barely counts as Synthesis returning if you also consider Darkshrines and Talismans being an existing league mechanic in the game, but I'm going to reinforce my point regardless that they overhauled the Nexus but it was never really stripped down unless you were using the old system to min-maxing rewards (which very few people were, most of that only came after the redesign). Harvest needed the same treatment if anything, the limitations on adjacent seeds were ridiculous.

From what Bex's posts sounds like, they don't plan on doing any actual major changes to it, and why would they? The tedium and time it takes to use the garden is probably meant to counter-balance the power it gives.
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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

You got banned but yamface didn't? What??


None of us got banned as far as I know.
"There's no thing like random one-shots in this game. You only die because you take 353,456,237 hits in 0.2 seconds."

"The best items in the game should not be crafted, they should be TRADED." - Cent, GGG
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You're joking? Right? Let me remind you again how Synthesis was "brought back" to the game:
...it was never really stripped down unless you were using the old system to min-maxing rewards (which very few people were, most of that only came after the redesign).
You have a misunderstanding of what I am getting at. You yourself admit in a previous sentence that they did not bring back Synthesis as to how it was originally in even the slightest. Putting some low probability maps that people never get and only farm for the flask is an embarrassment and downright lazyism by the devs. As opposed to the original intricate tyle system or memory board that allowed us to make our own maps how we wanted, had an amazing blue closing in system similar to Delve but without the degen AND gave us an interesting way to min-max with implicits. I don't care what the naysayers had to say about it either, I know a large part of the playerbase who are diehard Synthesis fans and are disappointed with each league realizing that Synthesis will likely never come back in the form people liked it for and instead just in the game as a gimmick because we all know keeping the original mechanic would be too much of a resource hog for them and cost them more money to maintain, which is really sad given they can afford to maintain it now with Tencent's help but they choose not to.

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From what Bex's posts sounds like, they don't plan on doing any actual major changes to it, and why would they? The tedium and time it takes to use the garden is probably meant to counter-balance the power it gives.
This I can agree on at least, yes the "tedium", if that's how you view it, and time it takes to learn and optimize your garden is worth the reward of crafting in my opinion as well. If only this would get through to the part of the playerbase who want this game to be an oversimplified, killing things loot pinata parade. Either way, the garden better be back with Harvest, otherwise, I have little to no reason to play the game again out of principle and will likely move on to other games that offer more than just killing things and have devs who actually listen to their fans and not just Reddit that's based on a high school popularity contest of upvoting and downvoting.
🔷🔶🔰🌀✨Standard>Leagues✨🌀🔰🔶🔷
🔷🔶🔰🌀✨Make trade like the Grand Exchange from RuneScape✨🌀🔰🔶🔷

Let us zoom out more. Bring back 32:9, Heist Alt Quality Gems, Gear Enchanting, Prophecy, Metamorph & Crucible. Stop removing content from the game. Stop nerfing everything. Stop making the game slow
Let me put it this way. Synthesis never returned to the game. They just brought back some bosses and the items to those things aren't gone from the game forever. The last actual changes they made to Synthesis were during 3.6 and mid-league.

I also remember the way they talked about the content was that they planned on bringing back ways of getting it that don't involve Synthesis, while right now they're talking about bringing Harvest back but making minor changes. Until we see a change of mind, I am pretty sure the actual league mechanic and garden is coming back, and most likely it's going to be crafts that are nerfed and not the garden itself (if they really wanted to dumb down the garden they would have done so mid-league because there were still things about the garden that needed to be streamlined that never was).
The operative word is "slightly" isn't it? To me that means changing seed rarity weightings, elimination/functionality of the strongest crafts, and maybe limiting the 'unlimited' storage of crafts for later use.

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