Real Money Auction House RMAH for poe

Is there an official statement somewhere that there will be no RMAH in PoE?

I'm guessing there will be none but I don't have time to wade through 40+ pages. If an official statement has been made it should be included in the OP or stickied somewhere, because I see RMAH questions pop up everwhere...

EDIT: Nevermind, only what Dave said I believe.

The thread has moved more towards discussing why it would / would not work.

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Papagoat wrote:

These guys just dont understand.

Time is the same for everyone. Everyone has 24 hrs a day, its how you choose to spend your time that changes from person to person.

Not everyone has 300 dollars to spare. I hope that you guys understand that. The guy with more money will be able to spend more money than a guy that has 10 dollars to spend.

And dont bring the same argument about a guy that has more time to spend or is smarter.

You can not buy time, experience or knoledge in real life can you?

These guys are making it look like they are so miserable and they have to have an advantage somehow. If you guys have the advantage of having more money in life than others why should you guys have the advantage in a game were real money is not valued?

I just want a game were money is not part of your skill set.

YOu can respond to me if you want but I wont come back to read the same thing or some made up the loopholes. Have fun and a good life.

If this is the only problem, they could easily put some limit for months or weeks..or anything..you can't spend more than 100$ each month or something like that.

That's it.

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Gargravarr wrote:

Is there an official statement somewhere that there will be no RMAH in PoE?

I'm guessing there will be none but I don't have time to wade through 40+ pages. If an official statement has been made it should be included in the OP or stickied somewhere, because I see RMAH questions pop up everwhere...

Not that I've seen.

Only an official statement that GGG doesn't approve of selling power.

Which is all kinds of open-ended. (That doesn't mean that they care if other people sell power. That doesn't mean they consider allowing players to trade for $ instead of Regal Orbs/GCP/Whatever is "selling power". That doesn't mean that it doesn't fall into their acceptable tolerance (eg, stashes are clearly selling power, just "not much.".), etc.)

But, the anti-RMAH interprit it as they will, to support their morally superioristic attitude that it would somehow defile the game.

This thread moves ridiculously fast.

zeto argues it far better than I ever could and clearer, so I defer to that.

Dave, my apologies for misinterpreting your core argument -- based on that one post, it seemed to be the point, but your 'point' is a lot harder to pin down. Which, I figure, is why you're still in this thread, butting your head against this tempting wall.

Every time someone says something with which I agree (such as 'you cannot buy time, experience and knowledge') you counter with what appears to me to be an assumption of a purchase. Your examples (maid, internship, etc) assume that just because the opportunity is there, that the person purchasing these 'advantages' will use them as such. That is a huge leap in logic in my opinion. It insinuates that people who have maids not only have more time, since they're not using that time to clean their house, but that they use it productively (in the terms of this argument, 'gaining power'). That's just not the case.

So while you can use your monetary advantages in real life to 'buy power' (I don't think anyone would argue that at all), chances are you won't, because it's not as simple as slapping down a fifty and suddenly having an hour's worth of knowledge in your head. There is still work involved in the game, the game of course being 'life'.

The purchase of in-game items with real cash reduces the required amount of work in-game to zero. It isn't just buying an advantage that can be used over time, it's buying an advantage that is automatic and instant. This is to me also the difference between the softer 'exp boosts' in most freemium games and that Uber Sword of Doom. If you buy an exp boost, you still need to put in some time to take advantage of it. Buy the Uber Sword of Doom, and boom, there it is, all ready to go. Unless you're a twit and buy it before you have the reqs, I guess. ;)

Any arguments I've seen so far about how certain people are time-rich and others aren't and that those who are time-rich are 'entitled'...well, shit, tough titty said the kitty, I'm afraid. Someone with more time to spend on a hobby (and let's look at gaming as a hobby here) has every right to be better than someone who doesn't. I'm starting to repeat myself here with the 'all the gear, no idea' argument, so I'll let that hang, since no one really addressed it the first time either.

At the heart of it, I'm sort of annoyed that so many intelligent people are putting their minds to this moot argument in regards to PoE. We really do have more relevant things to discuss when it comes to the game, I think.

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

Someone with more time to spend on a hobby (and let's look at gaming as a hobby here) has every right to be better than someone who doesn't.

How is that opinion any more valid than
"Someone with more money to spend on a hobby (and let's look at gaming as a hobby here) has every right to be better than someone who doesn't."?

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Sickness wrote:

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

Someone with more time to spend on a hobby (and let's look at gaming as a hobby here) has every right to be better than someone who doesn't.

How is that opinion any more valid than
"Someone with more money to spend on a hobby (and let's look at gaming as a hobby here) has every right to be better than someone who doesn't."?

Oh no, they have every right to be better. As someone with money, believe me, I wish it were the case more often!! (just kidding, that's silly). But the reality is, in most hobbies, time > money. You think buying the greatest guitar in the world will make you Santana?

Simple example, but we'll see how it goes from there.

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

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Sickness wrote:

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

Someone with more time to spend on a hobby (and let's look at gaming as a hobby here) has every right to be better than someone who doesn't.

How is that opinion any more valid than
"Someone with more money to spend on a hobby (and let's look at gaming as a hobby here) has every right to be better than someone who doesn't."?

Oh no, they have every right to be better. As someone with money, believe me, I wish it were the case more often!! (just kidding, that's silly). But the reality is, in most hobbies, time > money. You think buying the greatest guitar in the world will make you Santana?

Simple example, but we'll see how it goes from there.

Guitar = gear
playing skill = well..just playing skill..

You see?

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

Oh no, they have every right to be better. As someone with money, believe me, I wish it were the case more often!! (just kidding, that's silly). But the reality is, in most hobbies, time > money. You think buying the greatest guitar in the world will make you Santana?

Simple example, but we'll see how it goes from there.

...that's all you've got?