Real Money Auction House RMAH for poe
" That's worth a lot more than grins and giggles. Just how many posts did you have to re-read to decide who was for and who was against? I didn't think that many of the regular posters made their stance that clear. I'm against RMAH in PoE, indifferent anywhere else. Pure selfish NIMBY behaviour on my behalf -- yes. Don't care. ^_^ If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.
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" Well, it's a 52 page thread, with 10 posts per page (for the first 51 pages - but once I knew what stance a particular user had taken, I didn't have to reread their further posts in the thread... So... uh... around 100 posts I guess? Maybe a few less? |
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...Get a life. :)
edit: ...I meant Dave, but now I mean Tachi. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between. I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on May 9, 2012, 9:22:08 PM
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" " Insults a) I am not trying to troll you, nor am I a troll to those with great logic such as yourself. b)You can say I am incapable of understanding as much as you like dude. Insults fun things, check one. Universal Law. Murder is not the only applicable use for its meaning. And by your same example I can apply that to drugs, rape, copyright law,property laws. lol....universal acceptance is great(but your "limited" views on it are interesting) Check tw0. You need to rebutle everything regardless of its worth because your opinion you feel is more valuable Okay this one was slightly bullshiz, But just fing ignoring me is rude without properly exploring my points. And thus lead me to say that, and I havent seen you not have a rebutle for anyone in this thread's opinion that differ's from your own. Check three Thinks he has a right " Well, at first it was more of a feeling I was getting from your reply's and demeanor so I was just looking for a answer. And I got one :) . Case and point, you think "you" and "other's" have some kind of "right" to get a RMAH, Are you a Dev/Owner of this game? if not, I dont see how you have any right of any kind mate. QED? Check four. Sooooooo all the points you wished to test that I was lieing are provably correct??? It just seems you do not want to accept a little truth about yourself at my expense. " Man, the mis-use of context happening now is getting distorted well at the moment. I feel like sharing it some, as your pretty good at it also. Your job is not validation of what is wrong and right. QED lol. Let alone how provable your job really is. Nor is it proof you understand any of those concepts yourself. " I admit I am completely bias with watching religious shiz, I do not seek out religious television. I prefer to accidently be subjected to it. But if someone tells me its religious(In most cases) I will usualy not watch or hold interest. " I'm entitled to not have religious shiz of any form shoved down my throat for your arguements sake. How about I just request another example?. " Sorry are you not seeing my quote of you clearly mentioning religion in the movie? Or are we just purposely overlooking things today.... " " I am allowed to quote your answer to further my own points, it does not mean you are right.(But you are free to view it that way) "Anyway, there are plenty of people in this community who agree with me." And I care about your "lynch Mob" why??? As it seems to be the minority, and its not my job to protect your minority wants. " I dont need/must defend shiz, I am doing this for lolz. lol, QED(I'm enjoying this little three letter thingy now)? "you are the person who desires to put words/opinions in the mouths of the devs" PS. You dont have a right to a RMAH, but you are welcome to bribe me to say otherwise. I accept Cookies..... " What was to be demonstrated = A failure to demonstrate. What was required to be proved = Requires further proof. I see no "End Game" in the use of it(But you people do). But mearly a statement of "I didnt see the proof, if you fail to provide any, thats the end of it". And thus, I keep providing proof's....And your QED's become irrelevant. " As I have stated many a time, but you choose to ignore it(Which is frustrating). A possible majority of members of this community actualy has "real value's" on "Not haveing a RMAH or allowing the purchase of in-game items, it is evil to them" and your belief's undermine their accepted morality as you are trying to remove punishment for something they abhore. If you dont see how your arguement can be interpreted as trying to crush other's values gently in the name of "your opinion of progress". Thats a "real" problem as it causes distress to other's. Thus, I Scream "Heresy". " "Yup. You." Awsome how you jump straight to the "Absolute". I get how you like to believe your singular example holds credit to the definition. But as you stated "apart from sociopathic or psychopathic individuals", Meaning it doesnt have to be a 100% figure, just a majority. And what law's/rules of similarity are international in scale for the majority of the planet.... Copyright/property/violence/privacy/money...awwwwwwwwwwwwwww cute. And there goes your understanding of "Universal Law"....down the drain... Along with your narrow mindedness or determination to try get around it. Is this where I should start acting like you and ignore you and say you cannot understand?....lol. " I like how you split this apart from your previous answer, as this was ment to be tied in with the last answer. Seems very Self-serving :) "attempt to change it (through the channels. Like, say, democratic voting?)" Yea...So stop holding my arguement/opinion as a thing to change, and get to the democracy already! I would love to have my opinion changed that way(Because your singular quip at my intelligence or education, accuracy are just singular and of you own opinion).... Thus the poll suggestion over this topic. " Wrong....................... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2419713.stm I went looking around again....Not that I am an expert in weeed. But it does contain tar, same as ciggs that much is undeniable and everyone on the interwebz agree's. As for how much is in there, noone seems certain except for the news/science(Which you obviously dont agree with for your own reasons). But the detrimental effect's are there, none the less because its there. Even a simple google search can attest to that. lol in some cases weed has been said to help with cancer lol. (Like I said, devils advocate, that is the arguement against.) It is not mine, I support weed. But dont lie and claim there is no research against it dude, I would like to keep this a semi-logical debate. MEGAKILL! And weed is free, time/money or the reasons for this isnt. " Your not the only one explaining things..again...and again. Well, do it democratically instead of chewing my head off as if I made the rules, and I will stop telling you to shizit the fog up. And as you so clearly pointed out, at the time "the majority thought it was a good idea" as so thats what was considered right(Ethos). And over time the collectives opinions changed. Foresight is a handy thing to have, but it cannot be applicable to those in the moment(and that is why your logic is foged up). And this is where I see universal law kicks in, At the moment something happens where the greater majority makes a ruleing, questioning it after the fact for insights sake is fine, but trying to claim the majority's rule is not the right/ethical thing, is strange considering majority's are what make the (ethos). QED. But feel free to question the validity of the results. " I am just going to let you think about this, at some stage you may get whats wrong with it. because your "Fact" sure as hell aint "Fact", its just your opinion. peaceout time, nomore time to debate with heresy or liars. This is just warped. QED!!!!!!!! www.tachi203.com : For live streams, gameplay, news of me +(. It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence. - Mohandas Gandhi Last edited by tachi203#2942 on May 10, 2012, 12:15:20 AM
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I'm actually not against the RMAH... I just took up what I thought was a rational position, against another well thought out rational position.
Short lived leagues where position matters probably won't see many RM exchanges, effectively eliminating any real concern I'd ever have. Since I probably wouldn't play default much, I personally couldn't care less what people do with their money. I still do believe wholeheartedly what I've stated in this thread, taken as the position of a hardline against, and I feel the logic is pretty sound... I feel I presented why it would be unacceptable and under what conditions such a person would allow it. RP'ing is fun eh? If you have account problems please [url="http://www.pathofexile.com/support"]Email Support[/url]
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" It's like you read the words I do, but they say the exact opposite to you that they do to the rest of the world. For example, the only part of your post I'm going to reply to is above: That is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what QED means. "What was to be demonstrated" as in, the end of a mathematical proof - as in, once you have proved the work showing the conclusion, you write "QED" (or it can be abbreviated with the greek letter Delta.). For example: Shape X has 4 sides which are of equal length. Shape X has 4 interior angles which measure 90 degrees. QED, Shape X is a square. |
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Call me sceptical about the implementation of a RMAH that wouldn't be a bad thing, but I can think of some potential league split that might make it an interesting addition. As many have suggested, this will probably go on through other sites anyhow but I still don't think that it should be encouraged. If it were, it should be within a league or some clever way to keep people happy. I can't think of one, so I'm on the side of ... sorta against...I guess...with some open mindedness about how my mind could be changed.
"I would have listened... I would have understood!" - Scion
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Another way to look at the situation is through industry expansion. Ideally the game developer is making a lot of money for their great game. Not putting in a RMAH allows a third party to partake in the real life economic boon, which is in general good for economies involved.
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" Agreed, you have the same problem I am experiencing with you.(Logos) (How can we resolve this, without bloodshed...I call poll...sounds fair.) We are both using QED, but neither of us are really hitting a home run where the other cannot argue against the others final conclusion. Thus making the use of QED flawed. If you could agree or disagree with that. And I thought you didn't deal in absolutes? PS. This isn't math class and philosophical discussion is open to all kinds of interpretation. Regardless of it defying your very absolute perspective on your own logic(which is just distorted in philosophy). Including "If you think you or I are crazy or not" Geez I would hate to have a conversation regarding normality/insanity with you. Not going to go there. Thx for acknowledgement. www.tachi203.com : For live streams, gameplay, news of me +(. It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence. - Mohandas Gandhi Last edited by tachi203#2942 on May 9, 2012, 10:00:32 PM
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Actually, according to you, philosophical discussion (particularly in the field of ethics) isn't open to interpretation.
That's cool. You believe what you believe, no skin off my back, because fortunately, you don't get to decide what I can talk about, or what I should believe. :) By the way, I thought you were done with me? |
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