FIX YOUR MAP DROPS. FIX THEM. FIIIIIX THEEEEEM!

Maps do seem to be lacking this league...

Poor drops, poor maps and a bad league... Oh well... back to ARK.

NS

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Char1983 wrote:

That still doesn't change the fact that the map TIER is rolled first, and then the game chooses from the available maps AT THAT TIER.

So as long as you have at least 1 T14 map on your atlas, you will get all the T14s you would get if you have 15 on the atlas.

Sorry but this isnt exactly true either.

I have 41 possible T14 tier maps as I type this and I just did a T16 summit and got a T11 in return.

Another thing to add here even if in the past I could sustain fine for unknown reasons my opinion didnt change at all I still think the stones system is pretty bad and more needs to be done.

Now I'm with a T11 map and I lost a T16 map :) 131/154 - 31/154.

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Char1983 wrote:

That still doesn't change the fact that the map TIER is rolled first, and then the game chooses from the available maps AT THAT TIER.

So as long as you have at least 1 T14 map on your atlas, you will get all the T14s you would get if you have 15 on the atlas.

I can speak from experience having reached A8 that you're not guaranteed to get T14 maps. I've gotten T1 and T2 even with a fully unlocked Atlas. However, this was negligible and I was still able to sustain T14 despite it.

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Xystre wrote:

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Char1983 wrote:

That still doesn't change the fact that the map TIER is rolled first, and then the game chooses from the available maps AT THAT TIER.

So as long as you have at least 1 T14 map on your atlas, you will get all the T14s you would get if you have 15 on the atlas.

Sorry but this isnt exactly true either.

What is wrong about my statement?

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Xystre wrote:

I have 41 possible T14 tier maps as I type this and I just did a T16 summit and got a T11 in return.

How does that contradict my statement? How is the number of possible T14 maps of any relevance in this regard? Do you have a T11 unlocked, and did that T11 drop?

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Xystre wrote:

Another thing to add here even if in the past I could sustain fine for unknown reasons my opinion didnt change at all I still think the stones system is pretty bad and more needs to be done.

I also think the system is not good, and you could just be unlucky at the moment. Or the map sustain in Heist is lower, also a possibility.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

I can speak from experience having reached A8 that you're not guaranteed to get T14 maps. I've gotten T1 and T2 even with a fully unlocked Atlas. However, this was negligible and I was still able to sustain T14 despite it.

I am at A8 (on Standard) and don't get any maps less than T14 from normal drops. There are a few sources of maps though that ignore the Atlas, like Cartographer's Incubators, Uber Lab chests, Carto boxes and probably some more. I do get <T14 maps from those.

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Xystre wrote:

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Char1983 wrote:

That still doesn't change the fact that the map TIER is rolled first, and then the game chooses from the available maps AT THAT TIER.

So as long as you have at least 1 T14 map on your atlas, you will get all the T14s you would get if you have 15 on the atlas.

Sorry but this isnt exactly true either.

I have 41 possible T14 tier maps as I type this and I just did a T16 summit and got a T11 in return.

Another thing to add here even if in the past I could sustain fine for unknown reasons my opinion didnt change at all I still think the stones system is pretty bad and more needs to be done.

Now I'm with a T11 map and I lost a T16 map :) 131/154 - 31/154.

Yep. Can easilly reproduce.
Like I was just now doing 5 T16 maps for aw bonus, with AW8, atlas is 148/154 atm.
So guess what?
Got this in return from all 5.

What can I say?
F

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drklrd wrote:

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Chalace2 wrote:

Now do it with 7 in a row...

Moving the goalpost. Why didn't you concede after I provided you with video eveidence?

The video showed nothing, could have had 0 stones inserted for all we know.

No-one is claiming you can't go a few maps and get a bad streak. Hell, I just did 3 T11's in a row with only T10's dropping.... but then I got 5 T11/12/13 next map... less forum whining, more killing, you will be fine.

Hence, do 7 more.

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Galtrovan wrote:

1) I don't have a problem.

2) You are the one that has no clue. What I said can be verified by anyone. Place your stones where ever you want. Roll your map however you want. Run the map. Review all the maps that dropped during your run. What you will find is, the colors/tiers assigned to the maps that dropped, directly corresponds to the colors/tiers of the maps shown in the atlas. In other words, if your atlas says map XYZ is white/tier 5, and map XYZ drops durning your run, it's going to be white/tier 5. Period.

Mhm...

So, the maps you have on your atlas are the ones that drop... right... where did I say otherwise lol

You clearly insinuated that because you have white/yellow maps pre-AW8 your chances for a red map are only 50/50, this was your entire argument. Which is unarguably wrong, by any means. IT ROLLS THE TIER FIRST.

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This is why at A3 red map drops are pure luck regardless of how your maps are rolled. When a map does drop it's 50/50 that it will be red. Gut lucky, the map drops will be in the zones you have watch stoned and be red. Get unlucky, the map drops will be in the zones you don't have watch stoned, and you will walk away cussing that your uber rolled map gave you a bunch of trash tier map drops, and then come here and complain about it.

If you have 1 T14 unlocked on the atlas or 100, you still have the same chance at getting a T14... its not that hard to understand. IT ROLLS THE TIER FIRST.

Did I mention IT ROLLS THE TIER FIRST.

What dropped the Tower map?

Maps in this game are governed by RNG. Since maps are also the games content this often ends up going badly for folks.

Having a system in place that randomly punishes folks by withholding content is idiotic. It alienates players and this theme plays out EVERY LEAGUE.

CORE GAME PLAY SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ALL. Core game-play content should not be random.

This is a less than great league. Slow stop and go play in tight quarters. GGG has compounded the negatives with poor drops. Then to add insult to injury RNG is killing map drops for many of those players.

I logged in this morning and looked at my poor selection of level 6 and 7 maps and asked my self if I really wanted to keep playing the map game. The answer was no... Tired of playing the RNG content game.

Yes I can go buy maps... Spend my time in a broken trade system doing tell after tell find someone thats actually selling.

Or I can go play a game thats not holding content hostage behind RNG.

NS

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drklrd wrote:

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Char1983 wrote:

What dropped the Tower map?

I don't know for sure, just random mob.

Are you sure it wasn't some other map source, like a Perandus chest, or an incubator, or something? Normal monsters should stick to the atlas, as far as I know - unless you encountered some kind of bug.