Harvest has the highest 1 week player dropout rate in poe history

It was meh at first. Nice towards the end, and then at maps I realized that the way I wanted to build (# of zombies vs strong zombies), wasn't really viable anyway (Thanks Baron nerfs). Though I'm probably not the target audience of this game. I like sandboxes, and being able to min/max for effects rather than damage (and then back to min/maxing for damage once the novelty of the effect is out of my system).

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RevPortal_PoE_CH wrote:

It was meh at first. Nice towards the end, and then at maps I realized that the way I wanted to build (# of zombies vs strong zombies), wasn't really viable anyway (Thanks Baron nerfs). Though I'm probably not the target audience of this game. I like sandboxes, and being able to min/max for effects rather than damage (and then back to min/maxing for damage once the novelty of the effect is out of my system).

they not even make a crafts for summoners even this one reason to not play the league

It seems that it isn't just the league is bad due to the map nerfs and currency drops, Reddit is also quite dead for the very first time.

GGG has succeeded in driving away the players.

It isn't Harvest mechanic is bad but...

1) Currency drops are very bad.
2) No maps drop, means players are unable to play or to level
3) Achievement kill 500 sirus...with no red map drop. It is crazy for the solo players.
4) Rarely seen Niko and Zana. Only lots of Alva and Jun.
5) Cluster jewels are now harder to roll. Players just stop trying and stop buying as they quit in droves.

This weekend is super bad.

Anyone got statistics?

The game doesnt need more crafting.

It's already Craft of Exile. How about instead of crafting we can modify map drops to target items instead?

Its more exciting to get good drops than crafting that only a very very small % can really get into. People dont like to gamble away their hard earned currency unless you got a shit ton of it and just can gamble away, which very very few can do.

If we can target map drops to have certain things like.

-Modify a map drops to have physical modifiers with lucky values.
-Modify map drops to have an increased chance to have fire modifiers
and so on and so on.

this would be so much better than just pure crafting imo

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Setasuna wrote:

Reddit is also quite dead for the very first time.

And you say this based on...? Reddit is currently inundated with posts showcasing all the broken stuff made with Harvest crafting. Hardly looks dead.

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Essem wrote:

People dont like to gamble away their hard earned currency unless you got a shit ton of it and just can gamble away, which very very few can do.

The whole point of Harvest is to get more people into crafting by allowing for more targeted crafts and reducing the RNG. And one of the ways it also entices ppl to craft more is precisely by NOT involving said hard earned currency. You only use lifeforce, which is entirely contained within the Harvest system (much like sulphite is exclusive to Delve) and not tradable either.

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Exile009 wrote:

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Setasuna wrote:

Reddit is also quite dead for the very first time.

And you say this based on...? Reddit is currently inundated with posts showcasing all the broken stuff made with Harvest crafting. Hardly looks dead.

It is same old posts for a week almost. Nothing new.

The posts used to move quickly with hundreds of comments. Now you can even see 0 comments on the first page.

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Exile009 wrote:

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Essem wrote:

People dont like to gamble away their hard earned currency unless you got a shit ton of it and just can gamble away, which very very few can do.

The whole point of Harvest is to get more people into crafting by allowing for more targeted crafts and reducing the RNG. And one of the ways it also entices ppl to craft more is precisely by NOT involving said hard earned currency. You only use lifeforce, which is entirely contained within the Harvest system (much like sulphite is exclusive to Delve) and not tradable either.

The problem with this idea is a 6 digit lottery ticket isn't actually that much more appealing than a 7 digit one, even though it's ~50 times more likely to pay out.

Reducing the RNG of crafting is good, necessary even, but it didn't really do anything to promote crafting through most of the game. It got pretty good when you're constantly finding upgrades for your gear from monsters in acts 1-5, and it made making insanely powerful things once you're running t15 maps easier. For the time when trading is at it's peak, and upgrades are hard to come by, act 5 through yellow maps, it's just that six digit lottery ticket that doesn't pay out.

At some point you can spend hours rolling, rerolling, augmenting and fiddling about, or you can take the 5 chaos you farmed in 5% of the time and buy some cheapo gear that's 10x better. The crafts aren't that targeted, they're at least three layers of randomness deep.

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Setasuna wrote:

It seems that it isn't just the league is bad due to the map nerfs and currency drops, Reddit is also quite dead for the very first time.

GGG has succeeded in driving away the players.

agreed. when they do these little "experiments" they just drive a lot of the players away and they find a new game instead of poe. and they knew this league would be badly received but they still went ahead with it anyway

Ngl was here since metamorph league game is fun but up till now wanting to try other builds is tough(flicker/slayer build currently) I just want to have fun in the game but its tough constantly dying following a pretty old guide since I don't see a new one on the forum. It seems like every new league and patch comes out builds get driven into the ground while meta builds are being played(almost feels like dota.)

TLDR

bored of the game cause its tough to farm currency to fuel my build and have sold off some of my gems as I am tired and don't want to start out with a necro build which pretty much 30% of the new league is playing.