Harvest could be worst league ever?

For me its the badest league ever. Not only the garden is a uggly design the complet mechanic is totaly stypid. I did over 1500 seeds and dont get one good craft. Thats not what it should be.

the biggest things are augmenting some .... with lucky values. I did this craft lvl 79 over 20 times and in every case i got a tier 10 to 8 craft.

Same in a lot of reforging action. Only one of 100 was ok. Not good. only ok.

If there is a trick how people make crazy items i have no idea how it works. If a league makes things like this really complicatet and frustrating its not amusing.

With delve craft i know what mods i recive and not an eva craft on a int ring with augment dev.

The only good crafts are removing crafts as they do what they promise.

All my equip i have craftet with currency delve crafting and essence crafting. All trys to enhance this crafted items resulted in destroying them.

It can be that i am to dump to know how it works perfectly. But the description mostly NOT do what intended. Or lucky values means other things a i see in it and reforging means look for the badest mods you can craft and bring them on the item.

Most leagues til now had a frustrating and happiness factor. Some nearly totaly happyness.

this league has the biggest frustrating factor from all leagus together.
so my playtime is a half from normal leagues and will end soon.

I have to agree. For example there is a pretty good chance I will never ever see augment chaos or crit at the current rate i am going .


But I feel the worse offender is how poorly worded some of the craft are.

It is kind of scary how close the useful remove X add X craft is too... the catastrophic remove non X and add X.

I am ashamed to admit I missread it once out of frustration and ended up removing a mod ill probably never see for the rest of the league.

I almost quit the league on the spot and .. honestly harvest will probably be my last league until poe 2 because of how unfriendly the whole thing is

After all if harvest is so cumbersome and it is considered orders of magnitude better than core crafting ... well then fuck core crafting.

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billski82 wrote:

No offense, but it sounds like there's a lot of people here just to scold the ones who don't enjoy the league.

I have no problems with people disliking the league, finding it tedious or boring. But when they start blaming the complexity; claiming you need a freakin' PhD to understand it, it just shows their ignorance. There's NOTHING more complex about Harvest crafting versus regular (old) crafting, but rather the other way around.

The Harvest crafts are so directly worded, and tells you exactly what they do. The complex part here, seems to be the arguably impossible task of looking up ONE web site, to see the possible craft an item can roll - and the tags of certain mods. Still not complex, but I would understand "tedious".

If you understand PoE's affix system, you understand Harvest crafting. If you don't understand the affix system, Harvest isn't your problem when it comes to complexity.

I wouldn't disagree if it was the actual garden setup that is considered the complicated part. It's often a struggle to explain how to do anything in it, at the very least.

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Phrazz wrote:

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billski82 wrote:

No offense, but it sounds like there's a lot of people here just to scold the ones who don't enjoy the league.

I have no problems with people disliking the league, finding it tedious or boring. But when they start blaming the complexity; claiming you need a freakin' PhD to understand it, it just shows their ignorance. There's NOTHING more complex about Harvest crafting versus regular (old) crafting, but rather the other way around.

The Harvest crafts are so directly worded, and tells you exactly what they do. The complex part here, seems to be the arguably impossible task of looking up ONE web site, to see the possible craft an item can roll - and the tags of certain mods. Still not complex, but I would understand "tedious".

If you understand PoE's affix system, you understand Harvest crafting. If you don't understand the affix system, Harvest isn't your problem when it comes to complexity.

mind that it wasnt me claiming you need an phd
and mind that it was nothing more than an exaggeration so dont freak out of it...
I simply agree to the fact that harvest has complexity. If it wouldnt, newbies wouldnt need any guide, let alone "oldies" or whatever you wanna call them.
To say "ha this is easy to understand therefore not complex" is narrow minded and excludes everyone from your mindset having trouble to get trough this mess on his own.
"But we aint 10 years old anymore" amirite...
"lets have some class"
big brain time here

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Tolerantzdestr0yer wrote:

I simply agree to the fact that harvest has complexity. If it wouldnt, newbies wouldnt need any guide, let alone "oldies" or whatever you wanna call them.
To say "ha this is easy to understand therefore not complex" is narrow minded and excludes everyone from your mindset having trouble to get trough this mess on his own.

I firmly believe that everyone not finding Harvest boring, is having no problem with its so-called complexity. On the other hand, if you find it boring, you don't have the will or patience to learn the few mechanics to set up your garden. And once your garden is set up, Harvest crafting offers NO additional complexity versus old crafting, but makes it far more accessible and easy.

Maybe it's just my non-English ass, defining "complex" wrong, or people are referring to the garden setup as "Harvest crafting".

I couldn't disagree more. For me this is the most awesome league I ever played. For the very first time I crafted every single item myself. I even started minmaxing my jewels. Look at all the stuff:



This is how the game should be. I have boought a base or two but other than that this has all been crafted by myself. Finally a league where item progression is good!

I do agree with the sentiment that the garden is annoying as hell. But oh my the rewards. Finally everyone can craft mirror-tier items.

I’m so disgusted with this league. Rng at its finest. Trade is mandatory.

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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

I’m so disgusted with this league. Rng at its finest. Trade is mandatory.

This is simply wrong. This league is the most non-trade friendly ever. Craft your stuff yourself. Done.

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Faendris wrote:

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DreadLordAvatar wrote:

I’m so disgusted with this league. Rng at its finest. Trade is mandatory.

This is simply wrong. This league is the most non-trade friendly ever. Craft your stuff yourself. Done.

Every hopeful seed craft I’ve applied has degraded my gear. Even with multiple craft saves, rng takes over and gives low tier results. Ive done some gardening for sure, I’m 30 maps away from the grove boss. I’m not into casinos and gambling, though I do enjoy fossil crafting.