Harvest could be worst league ever?
" It's a salt thread. People are expressing why they're salty. Including me. So what? If you don't like that, you're free to go back to the league you love so much, and not attack people here! Have a good weekend Exile! |
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" Mind that friday evening the numbers are supposed to be hiiiiiiiigh. Most people are at home and dont have to work tomorrow. If numbers on friday evening stay low that means only one thing... You like this league, its alright for you, but for many other even without loot pinyjatas or such in mind its like standard with extra steps. |
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" I think maybe you should revisit that page and actually analyze the trends if you're going to have that attitude about it. I mean, the data goes back several years. I actually remember what flashback was like and I understand why they're more hesitant to implement it now given how it splits the community which is already dwindling. The real question you should ask is why are you so adamant to defend this league constantly? Even back when I was chiding the regulars for their excessive hate on beastiary, I wasn't blind to their complaints and recognized them as valid. It's also the reason that the current implementation of beastiary is far better than the league experience was. Just like beastiary and synthesis, harvest was an attempt to integrate crafting. And just like beastiary and synthesis the layers of rng and hoops to jump through are simply too excessive for most of the player base. The fact that this thread is over 60 pages long should tell you that it goes well beyond a vocal minority. But if you were really enjoying this league as much as you claim, you'd be too busy playing to bother to respond to these threads repeatedly. Yep, totally over league play.
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And this is the problem not all like to craft and now you cant sell anything except bases, for me crafting is exchanging exalts for chaos and slam on items i like doing things this way, running maps just so i can get some seeds and plant them then pray i get craft i want and pray i get good rolls is not fun and drop of any currency is so low i cant even sustain alchs without selling every uniqs, normal its drop 1 ex every next day with my play style and time invested in game but now i get 3 exalts in month of league
Last edited by neble#1210 on Jul 18, 2020, 7:25:31 AM
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For me this league totally sucks. I don't like crafting I do not want to learn crafting and I will never like it.
This league gives me nothing that I enjoy. I just cant wait till this carp ends, and new league start. |
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" Wasn't trying to convince of you anything except maybe to realize that you've let yourself be blinded by your "passion" that you don't see the data. Harvest probably has the sharpest decline percentage since launch. Decline is natural but losing over 50% in the first month is not, and with a 24 hour peak of just 44k that's drastic. And it's not like GGG was expecting this to be a popular league. But, since we're listing items, here are some rares that I Id'd from mapping and added bench crafts as applicable: Crafted this with fossils, hardly amazing but still nice enough for use. Didn't buy the mats but I still take into account their going rate. Making something really pretty typically involves liberal usage of exalts and I lose too much time identifying junk rares as it is. Most of this stuff below isn't even worth selling in standard but are still too pretty for me to vendor. Lastly, there is one "currency" everyone spends, and that is TIME. It's great that you're enjoying crafting for yourself. But if you're gonna harp on folks for pointing to the charts AND tell them that the numbers are improving ("as you said more") you aren't doing any favors to your point of view. Yep, totally over league play.
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" are you counting or discounting bots? I think without bots is below 30k. "Parade your victories, hide your defeats. Mortals are so insecure."
Once you break the cycle of fear no angels or demons can whisper you their sweet nothing words. poe0.2/10. Nuff said. |
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" If you think these are bad then...yours are just bad as well dude, I was going to post about your listings as mediocre stuff tbh. Not bad but nothing to be excited about. I had random rare drops as good as some of your items, the fact that you as everyone defending this league once again can only list up cRaFtInG as the only reason this league is actually good tells so much about those who are defending it. the one and only thing you seem to care about is the ability to craft items which are not horrible vendor stuff. and with burning desire you defend this poor league against anyone criticising it. "Harvest crafts good, best league" - sums up the pro side very well |
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" I dont know if there is a filter function, right now these numbers are bots inclusive |
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" It was a subtle hint you're treating your items as amazing when its just run of the mill with MAYBE a lil extra. Virtually everything in my standard stash was from a league at one point. And I didn't even buy a base, and I didn't have to micromanage an entire league mechanic - I just had to waste time identifying rares until something was nice enough to potentially sell or use. Or chaos recipe. Most of that stuff is sitting in remove only tabs for a reason, and even then its not like you need mirror worthy gear for most of end game. And I have to emphasize, almost all of it was in the stash and not on characters because they were leftovers... Your whole spiel is that you finally get to craft the stuff you can't afford to buy. Crafting generally nets a minor benefit for a major premium. I've killed every boss short of Aul (haven't found him still and only delve for challenges) and the harvest stuff. I wasn't rockin some godly gear perfect t1 rolls on everything. My old legion cycloner's "new" HH is worth at least twice as much as everything else on him aside from whatever the legacy starforge is worth. He's got all the souls unlocked (league challenge completed) and I have no desire to use him. It's the same reason I never bothered to replace anything with awakened gems, no sense in spending a lot for a minor gain, especially on a character I no longer enjoy. My herald stacker would have even been better with an awakened echo and awakened fork, but that would have been dumping almost 100ex if not more for just two gems to be used on a build slotted for destruction. Would it have improved my experience? Yes. Would it have been worth the expenditure given the depreciation? Nope. You could have posted gear as nice as the reddit crafts but you'd still be ignoring the biggest issue - it doesn't matter how pretty the crafts can get if you aren't enjoying it. VD was already popular in the past and all it really took was a nerf to indigon and poet's pen to take it out. DD may be a different spell but when the nerf bat comes around there's collateral damage beyond its primary target regardless. Given how proud you are of your crafts, just how do you think you're going to be feel about your self-crafted treasures should the powers that be wield the nerf hammer? Yep, totally over league play.
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