This league is a good indicator of the following questions:
1) How "content" are you with the base game?
2) Do you require MORE currency drops and MORE monsters to kill each league?
3) Do you even take into account the influx of map density we've had the last league, through Blight, Betrayal, Delirium and Legion? Not to mention scarabs?
I understand finding Harvest seed growing a bit dull. But to write it off as the "worst league ever" because there isn't MORE to kill and MORE drops, so you can buy everything you need in the first week(s)? We're starting to get into entitled territory here.
Last league was the most speed-driven and density-driven league of all time. Some people got what they wanted there, currency rained from the sky and you could buy everything your heart desired. Now we have a slower league, aimed at players that don't want a speed-driven currency-fest.
All leagues can't appeal to everyone. And it's OK to take a league break. Stop being salty about it.
Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile. Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on Jun 23, 2020, 11:06:40 AM
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Posted byPhrazz#3529on Jun 23, 2020, 11:05:55 AM
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yep
i dont like this league, i dont like this harvest thing, to slow and to complicated, i playing this game to enjoy dinamic fights, not to grow fucking seeds.
also i wanted to make a berserker (first melee caracter in my life)
then i saw the fucking piano style warcry changes, most op thing ever but you need to be a fucking piano master to push all those buttons, so fuck that. and fuck this league.
Last edited by MODERNDEFENDER#7762 on Jun 23, 2020, 11:12:09 AM
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Posted byMODERNDEFENDER#7762on Jun 23, 2020, 11:06:25 AM
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I think this comes up anytime there is a crafting league in one way, shape, or form. These leagues are good for the game AFTER the league has ended and become core and tend to suck during the league. This time around it is pretty extreme as the caches offer no monsters or loot. Essence and Beastiary at least had mobs to fight, which helped them feel somewhat engaging.
I honestly don't know what they can do for this league to make me enjoy it right now. It is good supplemental content that could be helpful in future leagues. But it just flat out sucks as a headliner.
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Posted byjddc78#1131on Jun 23, 2020, 11:16:27 AM
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Heyitspars wrote:
Yeah I've already quit. This league is awful.
experiments with new mechanics are a good thing, but this one is just a plain misstep. they were taking risks and more or less got away with the shit like tower defense, board games puzzles, but its gone too far this time.
I disagree.
This league is not an experiment, it a rushed project done in 2 weeks meant as a filler league because they simply did not have anything else ready.
There is no way they did proper planning or playtesting with this, otherwise so many flaws would have been apparent and so many things would be better.
Manually planting t2 seeds........
if they had any beta testing this would not have happened...
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
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Posted byKalHirol#0543on Jun 23, 2020, 12:21:06 PM
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Overmind29 wrote:
The game takes years to master, because there are TONS of relics from past leagues that serve basically the same or similar purpose than other mechanics (and people are confused what to do with all taht stuff), sometimes with slight differences. Not because of a "need of a spreadsheet" the problem is the game is designed with speedrunners and cookie-cutters in mind, that's why new mechanics need so much effort to master - if it was easy people would cry about it not being interesting, and being too fast to complete.
Hence the problem with this league - it is not a speedrun, it is not a loot explosion, it does not favour only the meta-builds. So people cry about it, becuase it is actually diferent.
But ultimately it does not come down to a any aprticular league, but the game direction and focus itself.
Overall this would be great overhaul of crafting => TO REPLACE the old system, not adding yet another layer to it.
I just love how you are defending this league so hard, yet you only have 1 challenge completed in it.
Sorry, but I find that absolutely hysterical. You must also be enjoying it so much that you're playing hours in it..... hmmm?
Logged in for about 2 hours, because the league started 2 days before my state exam...
Nevertheless I would defend it even if didn't play it all, becuase all that crying doesn't make sense. The complaint i was reacting to was more aimed at the game direction overall, it's pointless to blame the current league for it.
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Posted byOvermind29#5074on Jun 23, 2020, 12:22:51 PM
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Been playing since Talisman, every league.
This one got old in a whopping 4 days.
4.
This 'crafting league' is just another RNG clusterfuck that brings *NOTHING* worthwhile to the game - just more headache.
Done with it.
If they want something meaningful to be made of crafting... get rid of the damn RNG. You want a result, you put in the components and you get said result. DONE. Get rid of the damn dice rolls.
Every time I scroll through the list of crafting and all I see is 'reforge' this and 'reforge' that... Which means that I can do *nothing* to better my gear - except destroy it for *MAYBE* one roll that's useful - which means loosing the three others that are already there and already useful.
PoE crafting - the worst system in all of gaming.
True, the crafting in itself is pretty bad mechanically, but that is actually not problem created by this league ;)
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Posted byOvermind29#5074on Jun 23, 2020, 12:36:37 PM
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I was okay with this league, until I realized the trade-off that was being made. With no league mechanic that drops a decent amount of currency, I now find myself struggling to do basic bench crafts that I'm accustomed to doing during a challenge league. I just had to trade my only chaos (I'm still leveling) for some orbs of scouring to replace one resistance with another on a piece of gear. I know there are seeds that will swap one elemental resistance for another, but I believe those are tier 2 seeds. You'd have to get the seed to drop and then go through the harvest process. You've reduced my ability to craft something easily and gated it behind the harvest mechanic. I'd rather just have more orbs of scouring dropping, similar to other challenge leagues.
At the moment, I have no alchs, only 3 fusings, 5 jewelers orbs, and I'm running low on alterations. Basically, I'm broke compared to the amount of currency I'd usually have at this level, and it's not because I've been wasteful or using a ton of currency. The drops just suck.
I don't find the league mechanic too confusing -- it's just in some ways a worse form of crafting than what we already had (at least while leveling up). Not a great trade-off.
This isn't really a problem of this league, rather it is a problem of players getting too used to get TONS and TONS of stuff for every sh*t they accidentally step in during gameplay...
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Posted byOvermind29#5074on Jun 23, 2020, 12:41:03 PM
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Phrazz wrote:
This league is a good indicator of the following questions:
1) How "content" are you with the base game?
2) Do you require MORE currency drops and MORE monsters to kill each league?
3) Do you even take into account the influx of map density we've had the last league, through Blight, Betrayal, Delirium and Legion? Not to mention scarabs?
I understand finding Harvest seed growing a bit dull. But to write it off as the "worst league ever" because there isn't MORE to kill and MORE drops, so you can buy everything you need in the first week(s)? We're starting to get into entitled territory here.
Last league was the most speed-driven and density-driven league of all time. Some people got what they wanted there, currency rained from the sky and you could buy everything your heart desired. Now we have a slower league, aimed at players that don't want a speed-driven currency-fest.
All leagues can't appeal to everyone. And it's OK to take a league break. Stop being salty about it.
This man/woman (or whatever) deserves a cookie. Everyone is SOOOO entitled... maybe you should play the game for the game itself, not for the single new mechanic and loot explosions everywhere.
Lot of the posts just seem to show taht people are not enjoying the game at all, unless they get TONS of stuff all the time, and ideally it is something new every few weeks... What about stopping for a moment and enjoying the game as is, and not as YOU want it to be?
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Posted byOvermind29#5074on Jun 23, 2020, 12:54:23 PM
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If this league was launched alongside with some major changes (like Conquerors had Metamorph) I'd be okay with a slimmer league.
But having this now is a complete bummer. What is even there to explore? Same atlas, same past leagues. Cluster jewels are completely out of reach now. 2H melee is kinda fun, but it does not make up for the lack of any new substantial features.
Sure, there is plenty of content if you are new to the game, but to me there is barely anything at all.
I cannot even make myself to finish the story, let alone rebuilding atlas from the scratch again and going through unveils.
It's mostly on me, I guess, just a burnout from previous leagues. Still, this one is definitely subpar.
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Posted byacidagfc#6848on Jun 23, 2020, 12:57:38 PM
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Overmind29 wrote:
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Phrazz wrote:
This league is a good indicator of the following questions:
1) How "content" are you with the base game?
2) Do you require MORE currency drops and MORE monsters to kill each league?
3) Do you even take into account the influx of map density we've had the last league, through Blight, Betrayal, Delirium and Legion? Not to mention scarabs?
I understand finding Harvest seed growing a bit dull. But to write it off as the "worst league ever" because there isn't MORE to kill and MORE drops, so you can buy everything you need in the first week(s)? We're starting to get into entitled territory here.
Last league was the most speed-driven and density-driven league of all time. Some people got what they wanted there, currency rained from the sky and you could buy everything your heart desired. Now we have a slower league, aimed at players that don't want a speed-driven currency-fest.
All leagues can't appeal to everyone. And it's OK to take a league break. Stop being salty about it.
This man/woman (or whatever) deserves a cookie. Everyone is SOOOO entitled... maybe you should play the game for the game itself, not for the single new mechanic and loot explosions everywhere.
Lot of the posts just seem to show taht people are not enjoying the game at all, unless they get TONS of stuff all the time, and ideally it is something new every few weeks... What about stopping for a moment and enjoying the game as is, and not as YOU want it to be?
you havent even played the game, what are you talking about???
try the league then come and give your opinion
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Posted byrobb18#3960on Jun 23, 2020, 1:44:00 PM
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