Please limit Voices and Split Personality to 1

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yamface wrote:

You quoted "clearing power", then talk about clear speed. Good work.

You used clearing power as a response to my statement on better clear. To which you magically responded with some magical clearing power (what is that exactly?) I have read fair amount of forums and reddit on poe, and this is the first time i have ever seen this term, so if it means something different from clear speed then good job answering my statement on clear speed with something irrelevant.

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And all of your herald builds are dead.

Down to insults now are we? I was quite explicit why my heralds died. It is because i suck, for the record my first one died in T3 Mesa to a reflect, and second one died to failing corrupt lava lake boss with -12 max res and bunch of damage mods because i lost any sense of danger at this point, which is well because i suck.

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Uh ok I saw that build he played. It was nowhere near the build I gave you. Mathil tries to glass cannon as much as he thinks he can get away with, using him as a gold standard is hilarious.

Assumptions huh? good job.

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You obviously didn't play lacerate glad before or you didn't read that node correctly. That is 20% MORE attack speed. That is more important for lacerate than you think you understand.

That was my starting build this league, but no i have never played it. While you do benefit from attack speed to be able to proc 60% more damage mod, it is NO where near very important, same Steelmage you mention said he only took this node because he needed it for speed to win first 100. And yet again down to insults are we? Just because you are dead wrong is a not a reason to get angry, it is ok everyone makes mistakes.

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I told you very specifically that bare minimum investment herald stacking is mediocre. Your multiple dead characters is proof that is not unkillable. You just don't understand do you. I know after all this you're going to keep farming up that herald build, then die again. Then farm up that herald build, then die. It's never going to connect with your brainwaves the obvious is it.

I guess my dead herald is proof that t3 is too much for that build. I was wondering how long it will take you to fall down to low insults, frankly it took you longer then i expected. But congratulations you have dropped down to a true troll status. Don't feel bad it is usual on the forums when all you "logical" arguments have been clearly shown to be wrong most people do resort to insults, like you did.

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Deathfairy wrote:

You used clearing power as a response to my statement on better clear. To which you magically responded with some magical clearing power (what is that exactly?) I have read fair amount of forums and reddit on poe, and this is the first time i have ever seen this term, so if it means something different from clear speed then good job answering my statement on clear speed with something irrelevant.

That same paragraph that you ripped my clear power quote from explains everything crystal clear. Let me give you an example so that even someone like you can understand: a ed/contagion build can clear t16 maps fast, but you bring him into delirious maps and simulacrums and he'll die like a little bitch. He has the speed, not the power.

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Deathfairy wrote:

Down to insults now are we? I was quite explicit why my heralds died. It is because i suck, for the record my first one died in T3 Mesa to a reflect, and second one died to failing corrupt lava lake boss with -12 max res and bunch of damage mods because i lost any sense of danger at this point, which is well because i suck.

That was not an insult. That was just a fact.

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Deathfairy wrote:

Assumptions huh? good job.

Actually no. His hollow palm build had over 1.5k less hp and nowhere near block cap. It is a fact that his build was indeed nothing like what I gave you.

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Deathfairy wrote:

That was my starting build this league, but no i have never played it. While you do benefit from attack speed to be able to proc 60% more damage mod, it is NO where near very important, same Steelmage you mention said he only took this node because he needed it for speed to win first 100. And yet again down to insults are we? Just because you are dead wrong is a not a reason to get angry, it is ok everyone makes mistakes.

That isn't the only reason why you want 20% more attack speed. Attack speed on any attack build is a drastic increase in QoL and it stacks crimson dance stacks much quicker. If you truly played this build, then you simply had no understanding of what you were using. Oh and speaking of steelmage, it's funny how when I asked him this question his answer to this wasn't the same as what you just wrote. He did say part of it was to speed up the race, but he gave the reasons I wrote as why you should be taking this still. In other words, you cut his answer short to make a intellectually dishonest argument.

If you think you can really match the pob I gave you then why don't you theorycraft this amazing build yourself. Same budget. I'll wait. But keep in mind you chose to fight an uphill battle. Cyclone is the best melee skill for a good reason. For your lacerate build, you are already at a major disadvantage of not using a mobility skill and you're not immune to stuns like cyclone offers. The only thing I expect your lacerate build to have the upper hand on at all is clear speed. That's it.

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Deathfairy wrote:

I guess my dead herald is proof that t3 is too much for that build. I was wondering how long it will take you to fall down to low insults, frankly it took you longer then i expected. But congratulations you have dropped down to a true troll status. Don't feel bad it is usual on the forums when all you "logical" arguments have been clearly shown to be wrong most people do resort to insults, like you did.

Your graveyard of dead heralders are direct counterexamples to your claim of how tanky and unkillable budget versions are. I am very sorry. But these are just facts. No hard feelings. I am fully expecting purposeful harbinger to be gutted or maybe even voices. And I will say that minimum invested herald builds can "function". But 6 herald jewel builds are a far cry from the op shit that real herald builds can do.

You are just grasping at straws and strait up ignoring things i say on top of outright lying. Like quoting steel mage, where i explain exact what he said and why attack speed is important. But compare that 20% more speed with 75% spell block and it not longer looks very important does it?


No fact is you ran out of anything productive to say and reduced to pointing out my dead heralds, pretty pathetic up until now this conversation actually had some merit but you have reduced to insults, i am done.

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Deathfairy wrote:

You are just grasping at straws and strait up ignoring things i say on top of outright lying. Like quoting steel mage, where i explain exact what he said and why attack speed is important. But compare that 20% more speed with 75% spell block and it not longer looks very important does it?

Do not fucking lie about what he says. What really annoys me about people like you is you do nothing but complain and doubt all thread and the 1 time I ask you to put money where your mouth is, you suddenly don't want to do it. You sir, are called a "bad actor". You just don't want to make that lacerate build. Just say it. You already know you can't get a 4ex budget into that build. The fucking weapon alone would cost that much. I already knew this wasn't possible, but watching you scapegoat out of this like that is... I almost feel sad for you.

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Deathfairy wrote:

No fact is you ran out of anything productive to say and reduced to pointing out my dead heralds, pretty pathetic up until now this conversation actually had some merit but you have reduced to insults, i am done.

Fact of the matter is you.have.dead.herald.characters. Every time you try to argue how great and tanky they are, all anyone has to do is point out that you managed to rip multiple heralds. The reason why you don't want to argue anymore is because you lost. That's all.

The best part about this whole thing is that the way you got your heralders killed could've been saved if you invested properly into the build, which only proves my point even more that these 20ex herald builds are dogshit. You feel bad about dying to reflect? Did you know I survived my own reflect? Did you know your good buddy steel also survived his own reflect? He survived his own reflect TWICE. Did you know if you add more herald jewels, that minus max resist mod does nothing?