Can we stop pretending that Path of Exile is free to play?
" Comparing PoE to mobile games p2w. You just lost the tiny bit of credibility that you had left. You are obviously just a troll from here on out. Some do it good like you said. PoE does it good. Everything in this game is for free. Even stash space. You are free to make 20+ chars, and multiple accounts. Kids are so spoiled these days with games like Fortnite and LoL that they don't understand what f2p is any longer. Last edited by Miská#0911 on Mar 8, 2020, 1:29:05 PM
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" Clearly... But I agree; some do it good, some do it bad. But this isn't black or white. I firmly believe that PoE does it good. There's not many niche games in a niche genre, with 1/100 of the player pool of cosmetic-only giants like Fortnite and LoL that can grow, push out content every three month - all free - without some encouragements when it comes to spending money. PoE is probably the second largest success ever created in this genre, yet they peak around 130k players. I would call that a niche game. If they'd peaked around 10 million, I think they could "afford" a cosmetic-only model. ANYHOW, it's still on the good side. So many games are doing it worse, and the amount of money you "have" (your words) to spend, is abysmal. Hell, in my country it equals a beer or two at a bar. If that amount makes it "bad", sorry to say it, but you're cheap and are clearly very entitled. Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile. Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on Mar 8, 2020, 1:28:06 PM
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" Name-calling, really? Ok, dude - we're there. Disagreeing with you on a topic where you've admitted to not care about the definitions, makes people "fanatic". And GGG went from "good" to "so bad" that they deserve to be compared to the worst credit-card P2W mobile games on the market. Your ability nuance is incredible. Early in the thread, you showed some promise. Decent laid out arguments even though I disagree. But your last two-three posts just show that you're miles off. And blaming them of disrespecting their own game just because you disagree with their vision? Are you unable to an objective view? Bring me some coffee and I'll bring you a smile. Last edited by Phrazz#3529 on Mar 8, 2020, 2:58:52 PM
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65 pages to basically say you think you NEED to buy stash tabs and therefore it's pay to win.
Just create a second (or more) account as a mule. I used to have a character dedicated to uniques, one for stuff to sell, and one for currency/crafting. Don't pretend there aren't free workarounds. PoE is F2P, it's really dumb to try to argue otherwise. Also Fortnite is not a good example of a F2P model. They had the story campaign before their royale was out, and you had to not only buy the game (i bought the $200 version), but they also have loot boxes you pretty much had to buy as well (the very definition of P2W). Pretending they get all their revenue from cosmetics in their now much more popular mode is beyond ignorant. |
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" I agree. Poe did do it good, But now....4 regular stashtabs is just too restrictive. An easy solution to this is at bottom of post. It was fine before we had... Essences Divination Cards Fossils Resonators Metamorph parts Breach shards Legion Shards Conqueror orbs Perandus Coins sextants Silver Coins Scarabs etc.... There is just so much more, all that either dont stack outside of special tabs, or stack so small. One of the biggest issues to the person who wants to spend nothing, other than Poe Acquisition (which is a great program, and i strongly suggest to people for search capabilities alone, but too complicated for the casual to setup) Is they cant easily list these items for sale. Solution. Add a 5th tab in the base game. A premium tab. I think this would put PoE back into a Truly free to play game. It would still be restrictive sure, but there would be an in game way to list their items for sale, and convert their shit to compact currency. I think things like the $20 starter pack...and of course league supporter packs are good enough for people who want to drop in a few bucks. But for the Free to play, non paying players.....I think a 5th tab being a premium tab would make it a much smoother experience. I also believe that it would result in more people investing into the game. Not getting so frustrated with filling their stash and no easy way to sell it. The $60 supporter pack comes with enough points to get... The MTX that comes with the pack and 550 points. Premium tab bundle - 200 points Currency Tab - 75 points Map Tab - 150 points Divination Tab - 50 points Fragment Tab - 75 points And if you get them on sale, you can add an essence tab and convert your initial 4 free tabs to premium too. But for the Free to play done right. Easy solution is just add a 5th free tab, and make it a premium one. |
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" That's the shittiest pitch for a $4 item I ever heard. The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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" Howso? Its a reasonable solution to a problem. I have spent plenty of money in this game. The free to play debate is not something I benefit from. Are you so salty, that you don't think players, who don't want to spend money, deserve that extra bit of quality? |
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" I can appreciate that. On the hand, we have to try to keep in mind that it is all really just marketing hype anyway. People shouldn't expect to be able to take marketing hype to the bank. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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" I mean sure, it got bloated a lot. And even though I agree with you that since the beginning we are less right now then we were, options remain for everyone. If you truly wanted to be f2p you could in this game, with only minor convenience issues. Sure you would have to log between accounts a bit, but what do people really expect. PoE offers legit f2p for people that really are bend on spending no money, and it does that in the most liberate way possible for a niche genre this game exists in. Beggars can't be choosers. |
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People complain about bots, and their impact on the economy.
You can't grant premium tabs to free accounts when they already get exploited by bots.... Sure, it be nice if the default accounts got more space but cmon people think about the consequences beyond. Yep, totally over league play.
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