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Lask001 wrote:
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chockomonkey wrote:
^^ Except that is exactly what they're doing to all these accounts. They're taking their time. It does not smell like an automated job.
They took the time to grab every rare that had any value.
Which is why I am of the belief that your friends aren't really friends. But I obviously can't even come close to proving that.
I've known them all for a very long time, and none of them would do this.
Which is why from MY point of view, there is something else going on here which we all haven't thought of.
Things are not adding up.
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Drakier wrote:
How do you know they're taking their time? I've only seen a few cases where people basically "watched" their account get stripped, and they were done in minutes.
Hacker gains access, friend's a bot account, invites bot account to group, then basically trades all the crap off as fast as they can.
The other reason they go after currency more than items is because currency takes less inventory space, so you can move more of it quickly. Items are a lot more difficult to account for and take up a lot more space. They're not worth the space to value ratio.
You're right i don't. I just noticed that they took random-ass rares. Some were rares i've been trying to sell for awhile. Others were ones i'd put in "junk heaps" because i didn't value it. They took all my maps. Every single quality gem on and off my character. A few other gems that weren't quality were missing (i wish i knew what they were). All my uniques. They took every bit of currency save for my alchemy shards and two Glassglower's baubles. (thanks hacker, i'm that much closer to my first alchemy wooo) Why they left these, who knows.
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Posted bychockomonkey#0359on Mar 19, 2013, 5:37:59 PM
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Lask001 wrote:
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chockomonkey wrote:
^^ Except that is exactly what they're doing to all these accounts. They're taking their time. It does not smell like an automated job.
They took the time to grab every rare that had any value.
Which is why I am of the belief that your friends aren't really friends. But I obviously can't even come close to proving that.
I have no friend who plays PoE, they all stood with WoW but that's another story. And even if they were playing PoE, i wouldn't share my account details with them.
They (hackers) really took their time when emptying my stash. Some items they left have some value though, but they really pinpointed what was worth taking.
For instance, leaving my magnate belt i had equipped, but taking the tri-res, 400+ ES, 5L 6S tunic that was stored on one of my mules.
Hell, they even cared enough to re-organize my entire stash...
I dont buy the mail account hacking. To access my mail box they should have known two things:
1)My user name, which is different from my email adress and not even similar, to access my provider's site.
2) my mail box password, which was, granted, vulnerable.
IGN: Cyanyx
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Posted byQmabyte#4414on Mar 19, 2013, 9:52:14 PM
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Hell, they even cared enough to re-organize my entire stash...
I dont buy the mail account hacking. To access my mail box they should have known two things:
1)My user name, which is different from my email adress and not even similar, to access my provider's site.
2) my mail box password, which was, granted, vulnerable.
They organized my stash too lol
And I'm starting to feel the same way. I've been probing GGG email support for 2 days now trying to get their records of IP's connected to my account, and records of emails dispatched. They were really quick in getting me the first information i asked for (last connected IP, which was useless--as it was mine).
I'm starting to think that there was a hole found in their system to not trigger the account-lock.
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Posted bychockomonkey#0359on Mar 20, 2013, 12:33:32 PM
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I'm starting to think that there was a hole found in their system to not trigger the account-lock.
Not saying this is the case, but if the hackers installed a proxy on your system, they would be able to relay their PoE connecting from your machine, and it would look like they were logging in as you.
If I were the hackers under the current security measures, that's what I'd do.
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Posted byDrakier#1520on Mar 20, 2013, 12:59:29 PMValued Poster
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chockomonkey wrote:
I'm starting to think that there was a hole found in their system to not trigger the account-lock.
Not saying this is the case, but if the hackers installed a proxy on your system, they would be able to relay their PoE connecting from your machine, and it would look like they were logging in as you.
If I were the hackers under the current security measures, that's what I'd do.
Though I had to 'unlock' my account when i got home from work. If they'd done what you suggest, there would have been absolutly no lockouts.
My scenario (and many other people's) has ONE lockout, instead of two (which there should have been).
I do appreciate your ideas, btw. Everything helps.
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Posted bychockomonkey#0359on Mar 20, 2013, 1:25:54 PM
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Though I had to 'unlock' my account when i got home from work. If they'd done what you suggest, there would have been absolutly no lockouts.
Depends on the situation. The one lockout could have been from your own IP changing (if you have a dynamic IP).
*shrug*
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Posted byDrakier#1520on Mar 20, 2013, 1:45:55 PMValued Poster
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OR...there could be someone from GGG...
Free game, no sub, no real hack tracing and items that could sell for hundreds of bucks. Tempting, isnt it ?
IGN: Cyanyx
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Posted byQmabyte#4414on Mar 21, 2013, 11:14:31 AM
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OR...there could be someone from GGG...
Free game, no sub, no real hack tracing and items that could sell for hundreds of bucks. Tempting, isnt it ?
Dumb. Why would they need to hack, they could just create the items and sell them.
They can track the stolen items, they just aren't willing to restore because of what it does to the economy. In diablo 3 for example, if your account was compromised you could get a restore, so what people did was give all their stuff to their friends, fake a compromise, and then had their items restored. GGG doesn't want this to happen, so a no restoration policy was put into place.
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Posted byLask001#4507on Mar 21, 2013, 11:28:00 AM
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OR...there could be someone from GGG...
Free game, no sub, no real hack tracing and items that could sell for hundreds of bucks. Tempting, isnt it ?
Dumb. Why would they need to hack, they could just create the items and sell them.
They can track the stolen items, they just aren't willing to restore because of what it does to the economy. In diablo 3 for example, if your account was compromised you could get a restore, so what people did was give all their stuff to their friends, fake a compromise, and then had their items restored. GGG doesn't want this to happen, so a no restoration policy was put into place.
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Posted byQmabyte#4414on Mar 21, 2013, 11:31:18 AM
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Lask001 wrote:
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Qmabyte wrote:
OR...there could be someone from GGG...
Free game, no sub, no real hack tracing and items that could sell for hundreds of bucks. Tempting, isnt it ?
Dumb. Why would they need to hack, they could just create the items and sell them.
They can track the stolen items, they just aren't willing to restore because of what it does to the economy. In diablo 3 for example, if your account was compromised you could get a restore, so what people did was give all their stuff to their friends, fake a compromise, and then had their items restored. GGG doesn't want this to happen, so a no restoration policy was put into place.
If they can track stolen items, how does their solution make any sense?
- Delete Stolen Items
- Restore Account
- have happy customers
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Posted bychockomonkey#0359on Mar 21, 2013, 11:47:32 AM
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