So, what happens to stuff in standard in 2.0
" in terms of everyone being on an equal playing field when it comes to items they own, no, the entire point of standard is that its the place where people get to keep their gear and that is prioritised over fairness or game balance, thats literally the entire reason it exists and we have separate leagues that are regularly reset in order to put balance and fairness first. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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" the point of standard is How do you know what the point of standard is? Is there a link to that info? I mean, it's a reasonable interpretation of standard, yes. But I think it's your interpretation. But correct me if I'm wrong with a link to an official statement that supports yours. About your previous post where you answered to some of my replies: 1.) I didn't mention wealth made by legacy items. You did. Then later on you say they constitute a minor portion of that wealth made. Then why mention it? I didn't. To me it's a principal thing anyways. 2.) Gaining wealth through abuse of certain mechanics is and will always be the case, but the rules must always be corrected asap and stay the same. Declaring an item as overpowered, nerfing it and removing it in its original form from the game, yet leaving the older versions in it is incoherent with a set of rules. What's even more bizarre is: making a league (Legacy League) where people can find such items, that have been removed from the pool of items because they were deemed too strong...that's just....oh well... “Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.” ― Christopher Hitchens My QoL List: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3279646 Last edited by Antigegner#0560 on Nov 17, 2019, 12:49:17 AM
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the point of standard is obvious for anyone who thinks about it rationally for 10 seconds. its not a reasonable interpretation, its like saying a reasonable interpretation of a drink is something you drink, its not an interpretation, that is what it is.
the 'rules' are correct and stay the same for everyone. an item could drop with X properties, and that rule was for everyone, it could drop for everyone, and then they changed the item to have Y properties, and that applied to everyones drops too. The rules have always been the same for everyone, the only difference is that some people were playing and did things at points that other people didnt. everyone has always been on equal footing, the only difference is accumulation of power over time. the rules are the same for everyone at all times, but the rules change, leagues are where the rules stay consistent during a period of item generation and standard is where the items persist through different sets of rules. the moment you start talking about how fair an arpg league that has been running for 6 years is, where some people have probably 400+ mirrors worth of wealth in their stash, youve lost the plot. Its like theres 2 shops next door to each other, one is an apple shop that sells apples, the other is an orange shop that sells oranges, and youre standing outside the apple shop complaining it doesnt sell oranges instead of apples. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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Standard stuff is staying, and thats great. Keep chars, keep mtx, keep items. Standard is a place to play with your stuff.
If you dont like that, play league....its not difficult. And if you dont have time to play leagues....then why does what someone else in standard have effect you? Legacy mirrored gear is beaten every league, legacy uniques do have some power to outdo their new versions, but even they get stepped on a bit. Just enjoy the game, and chase those legacy items in standard if you want. But you have to realize, that the average joe can faceroll all content with gear obtainable in any current league. It doesnt take legacy items to break the game. Any piece of gear that is worth 10+ exalts because it was legacy, can be matched by an entire build based off current drops/crafts for the same 10ex....so quit the salt, and lets enjoy poe 2.0 Mind you, i would have no real issue of a complete standard wipe with 2.0.....and i have many gg legacy / mirrored items. But I would not wish that on anyone who doesnt want to lose their stuff they worked for. |
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" i can finish that sentence for you...... "that have been removed from the pool of items because they were deemed too strong...that's just....oh well...".....fits the point of what standard is. That point has been reinforced by almost evey change/decision they have made regarding leaving legacy items. You ask if the other ops know what the point of standard is? And where is the official post? Just look at the actions....they have spoken through decisions from official release when they declared the last wipe of standard. Its not a puzzle, not a secret....they have spoken through action, and have not been shy. |
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" He is right. I think anyone with reasonable logic knows what the point of standard is. Just because somehow you're refusing to see it this way or need Chris or someone to flatly say it out loud is another thing. Leagues are there for your balance, efforts can't be split into every mode in the game. Leagues will and always will be the main priority and standard is everything the guy you quoted said it is. If I had to summarize what standard is, I would say it's a "Jungle environment Trophy Room". Last edited by poeGT#1333 on Nov 17, 2019, 1:49:55 AM
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" Kid, I'm imposing nothing, that's the way the game work. You wanna delete the stuff of people who play the game to hoard stuff (that's why most people play standard). Maybe people who were hoarding those stuff for 7 years. Lol and why? Because you don't have those stuff as well? And all of this in a NON competitive game which already has Leagues to fill the purpose of fresh start in fresh economy every 3 months? Ahah that's a rant from a kid. Edit just to add: This whole thing of calling 4.0 Poe 2 is misleading some peopl... like Poe 2 is a new game and we shouldn't carry over stuff from poe 1! What a lol. Why, for the Sake of doing unreasonable things, we don't wipe out standard and keep stuff you got in Blight for the upcoming Methamorph league? Ah? Let's do it! Lol Last edited by Asra101010#9694 on Nov 17, 2019, 4:13:01 AM
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I believe standard is standard.
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" ok “Human decency is not derived from religion. It precedes it.”
― Christopher Hitchens My QoL List: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3279646 |
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" EVERYTHING will become completely worthless but there is light at the end of the tunnel. I'll buy all your legacyy kaom's chests and legacy facebrekers with at least 999% for 1 ex in poe 2. Simply sell me 3 or 4 of those old and soon worthless items and I will deliver 3 or 4 ex to you in poe 2 right after the first week of poe 2. Seems like a fair deal right? ;) German saying: Schönheit und Funktionalität in Sekundenschnelle zu ruinieren, ist dem wahren Dilettanten keine Herausforderung!
torturo: "Though, I'm really concerned, knowing by practice the capabilities of the balance team." top2000: "let me bend your rear for a moment exile" |
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