So, what happens to stuff in standard in 2.0

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Sickness wrote:

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Ender311 wrote:

If POE 2 forced me to start from scratch in Standard, I'm honestly not sure I'd make the switch.

Standard isn't competitive, what is there to worry about?

Standard not being competitive isn't relevant to my fondness and desire to keep my junk in POE 2. It is relevant to the assertion that said junk is worrisome. It's my opinion that the only reason Standard legacy gear would ever be worrisome is if it gave an advantage in a competitive game mode.

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Sickness wrote:

It is a real shame they dont take the opportunity to reset standard. Was to not have to worry about the current state of things the reason it's PoE2 and not 4.0?

the whole point of standard is that it doesnt get reset. the reason they have integrated the game is so that they dont separate the player base, which is entirely tied to standard existing and players caring about the stuff they have there.

theyre not constrained in any of the 4.0 decissions by anything in standard.

why would they look for an opportunity to reset standard? you say that as if its something they want to do. It goes completely against the reason they created standard.

You wanna play fom scratch? Play Leagues.
You wanna keep improving your stashtabs? Play Standard.
What's the point in wiping Standard lol? What will be the differnece between Standard and Leagues then?

And I'm saying that as a console (sigh..) Player who started playing in june..so basically no legacy item here, no mirror service either and due to the small community, 200 exalts makes u one of the wealthier guy in the whole Standard server..

This need to impose your way of playing to others sounds a little bit like a spoiled child.

Fresh Start? Leagues.
Hoarder? Standard.
As simple as that.

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Elua wrote:

Most reasonable solution for 2 billion item database is delete standard league permanently. It's old junkyard anyway.

I would tend to agree... or give us some better sorting functions.
Allow us to vend entire tabs at once.
Locate all of a given unique and automatically dump them in a chosen tab (remove only) so that we can compare them and deal with them as we wish.

Auto-combine like tabs (currency, delve, ect) at a single click with any 'leftovers' remaining in the remove only tab.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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Antigegner wrote:

Wealth in PoE could be compared to an experienced chess player who played for years and gathered an advantage over a younger player. No need to take that away to make it fair. The set of rules must be the same though and items are part of that set of rules.

Well, I disagree with you guys. But I'm fine with you all enjoying it the way it is.

that wealth was generated through legacy means that no longer exist as avenues to make money, and you can no longer make money like that in standard from a fresh start because these people hold monopoly of the servers economics through mirrored rare gear.

being as rich as those people are is a legacy status.

Being rich as a result from playing the game as is/was is no legacy status. It's just playing the game longer than others.
What you are mentioning is a resulting problem - a direct result of leaving legacy items (my definition of legacy items) in the game. If they would have updated all items to the current version every time they made changes it wouldn't have happened.

Let's just agree to disagree on that one. Game is still fun with or without legacy items :D

i'm more curious on 3W mirrored items in 4.0.0

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Asra101010 wrote:

You wanna play fom scratch? Play Leagues.
You wanna keep improving your stashtabs? Play Standard.
What's the point in wiping Standard lol? What will be the differnece between Standard and Leagues then?

And I'm saying that as a console (sigh..) Player who started playing in june..so basically no legacy item here, no mirror service either and due to the small community, 200 exalts makes u one of the wealthier guy in the whole Standard server..

This need to impose your way of playing to others sounds a little bit like a spoiled child.

Fresh Start? Leagues.
Hoarder? Standard.
As simple as that.

You are imposing PoE1 standard on PoE2, like a spolied child that also does not know the difference between 8 years and 4 months.
Gj

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Ender311 wrote:

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Sickness wrote:

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Ender311 wrote:

If POE 2 forced me to start from scratch in Standard, I'm honestly not sure I'd make the switch.

Standard isn't competitive, what is there to worry about?

Standard not being competitive isn't relevant to my fondness and desire to keep my junk in POE 2. It is relevant to the assertion that said junk is worrisome. It's my opinion that the only reason Standard legacy gear would ever be worrisome is if it gave an advantage in a competitive game mode.

So balance does not matter at all on standard?

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Antigegner wrote:

Being rich as a result from playing the game as is/was is no legacy status. It's just playing the game longer than others.

it is a legacy status because the methods by which they made that wealth no longer exist.

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Antigegner wrote:

What you are mentioning is a resulting problem - a direct result of leaving legacy items (my definition of legacy items) in the game. If they would have updated all items to the current version every time they made changes it wouldn't have happened.

its got very little to do with legacy items. most of those big hordes of wealth were made via mirror services and making money in leagues via various methods a lot of which dont exist any more. Legacy uniques are a tiny part of it, virtually insignificant.

in the league where we were using ancient orbs on low level shields to make lycosades I made 2 and half mirrors in 4 days. Tell me how a new player comes into this game now and makes that kind of wealth in 4 days in standard league?

theres people who made literally 100,000s of exalts from mirror fees on items they made using eternal orbs, which now dont exist, at a point in time when standards population was vastly bigger than it is now.

I would like to know what will happen with Alternate Art items also.

Some of them cost a lot of mirrors, I would like to finally see them as usable MTX items at least.