[3.14] ShakCentral's Vortex For Everyone

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kingkano wrote:
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mDrama wrote:
Hey guys. How does this build fit a "not very seasoned player"? I tried PoE a couple of times but never got to end game content (killed Shaper and normal Atziri in the past but that's it). And always ended up playing cyclone, lol. Trying to play smth different now and vortex mechanic seems interesting. Although I'm afraid of Shyv wrappings which cost like 100c+ even with 0 links and overall price of the build.


This build is awesome for somebody who wants to get to end game and learn the bosses, because that was me in last league. I had never completed the new atlas, never fought any big bosses, never run delirium maps. I did all of that last league, beat uber atziri, shaper, sirus A8, all deathless.

Once built up with LL gear, as donbrawler has said it is 'tanky' in that there are lots of layers of defence and you don't need to stand still. You can just drop a vortex and then concentrate on dodging and watching the boss, learning his mechanics, while the DOT damage ticks away on him.

It is as cheap as you want it to be, shavs, chayula, a decent want, gloves, none of them are cheap - so the final LL build does cost some money. But it can still be very reasonable on CI, even on trash gear. (I am just stalling at T15 maps and halfway thru watchstones - with my beginner mapping gear on CI - 6.5k ES 360k dps) so you have plenty of time to get the cash while mapping.

I would recommend to a person who likes to invest into a build over the league, I found this ideal to do that with, you can build it in layers. Or you can go straight for the great LL stuff like some guys here did!


I wish that it would be possible to make posts like yours more visible.

And tbh, the whole guide organization is a mess in my opinion. I won't blame Shak, these things are hard to make right and are time consuming.
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roselan wrote:
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Anyone got any experience/tips how to make a Headhunter work on this build? Just bought mine for the league but still building the mapping character and it feels kind of like a waste to have it sitting in stash, do I just use it as a defensive and MS belt for mapping or is there a more fancy setup to run?


I did try!

And for dps it's absolutely useless. If you can afford to play with a hh, dps is not your issue, no mods impact the dot noticeably.

The only mods that benefit you movement speed. And that point it's worth considering, but then get tailwind-elusive boots too. Proxy-shield is fun, but not sure it does much.

Completely useless but pretty fun too: You know that node in Delve where white ghost bears rush the skeleton in the middle? Well, they are all rare and give ES. I had like 100k ES XD


Yeah, thats kinda what I thought, I ran a few maps with it and it did about what I thought it would do, increase my movement speed and make me immortal, which is probably better than anything I can get from any other belt I guess. At the very least its fun as hell and fixes attriburtes.

Since I see you talking about the ailment immune maxblock CI Version a bunch on here, could you point me to any ressources where I can check that out? Since I‘m gonna only use the char for bossing in the future I‘d prefer to build as tanky and sturdy as absolutely possible, since DPS is less of a concern with all of the intermissions going on.
it seems that pob is incomplete :(
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whyarewehere wrote:
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Hi all!
Started vortex in this league and it feels very easy to level!
I've just seen the new CI gems, but don't understand vaal righteous fire...can we use only the vaal version because normal will stop instantly or am I missing something?


Yeah only use the vaal version > never use the normal one or even turn it on

We can't sustain the normal one



Thank you!
Started playing last year in delirium league, still surprised when gems are used only for vaal version :D :D :D


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OrKToS wrote:
I think it would be better to separate CI and LL POBs, because LL gems affect CI build, boosting dps to unrealistic level.


You can disable the LL gems and activate the CI gems, otherwise it's a problem understand how much mana is reserved :D
Enjoying the build so far, got a question.
As you can see in my Profile (i hope) i am rocking a tabula atm, wich is fine even in Yellow maps so far.
I have a 5L6S Shavs ready to go, as well as a Prism Guardian, Mark of the Shaper and Presence of Chayula.
Should i just switch to LL with that and get another shavs to 6l later? or should i stick to the Tabula and continue trying to 6l the shavs?
So, if I've got aspect of the spider up instead of temporal chains, am using a presence of chayula, and don't have reservation for another curse - is it worth respec'ing out of vile bastion for malediction?
Is the wand when you have "trigger a socketed spell when you use a skill", 2 links? It seems to be the case in the POB.

What im trying to say is, do i just link stormbrand with frostbite (like showed in POB) or its better to link both Orb of Storm and Stormbrand to Frostbite?
No idea where I went wrong with this build, I was cruising along really well and having a blast until I got to maps. I'm 73 currently and even in T1 White maps I'm nearly getting one-shot by stuff (no haven't gone CI yet, only 1k ES) at a loss for what to do and where to go with it. If anyone more experienced could give my profile a view and maybe suggest some things that would be awesome and I'd be so grateful.

Thanks Shak for the build, it was really fun to take through the game up until now.
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Ma23ck wrote:
Is the wand when you have "trigger a socketed spell when you use a skill", 2 links? It seems to be the case in the POB.

What im trying to say is, do i just link stormbrand with frostbite (like showed in POB) or its better to link both Orb of Storm and Stormbrand to Frostbite?


I think it's a typo on the guide.
Once you have the "trigger a socketed spell when you use a skill" craft on your wand you can add the Elemental equilibrium node to your passive tree and replace frostbite > frostbomb and hextouch > stormbrand. Once that's done your links on your wand don't matter.
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Frostrike wrote:
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Ma23ck wrote:
Is the wand when you have "trigger a socketed spell when you use a skill", 2 links? It seems to be the case in the POB.

What im trying to say is, do i just link stormbrand with frostbite (like showed in POB) or its better to link both Orb of Storm and Stormbrand to Frostbite?


I think it's a typo on the guide.
Once you have the "trigger a socketed spell when you use a skill" craft on your wand you can add the Elemental equilibrium node to your passive tree and replace frostbite > frostbomb and hextouch > stormbrand. Once that's done your links on your wand don't matter.


So you saying to not put Frostbite along Storm Brand and OOS but Frostbomb instead of Frostbite?

Wont Frost Bomb trigger EE in a bad way for us? (cold dmg)

Thanks for the clarification btw :)

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