So PoE Zombies are Feral Ghouls?

Wow, I never noticed that. Is he from 2084 Mars?


Total Recall

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Lazarus507 wrote:

Maligaro


William Birkin

Alva, the Wayfarer


Alva, Master Explorer


Edit: Master Explorer*

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

...I wasn't arguing at all until two people in particular failed to realize what I was insinuating when I said zombies aren't specifically a unique concept - It was inferring that while there could be a completely reasonable explanation to why the images were so similar, personal bias is so dominant for some people that the only perception of the truth is their own. It's one thing to make an accusation, it's another to claim it's truth without proof.

That zombies aren't a unique concept is irrelevant. You can't protect, patent or copyright an "idea." It has to be specific. Here, it was an image. It's like copying any other image and then putting your name on it as the original creator and selling it to someone else.

In some cases of "artistic interpretation" where Fair Use allows copyrighted works to be resold as "art" it is legal to do that since it's the interpretation and presentation that is important in determine whether or not a work has been suitably and sufficiently "altered" from its original form to be considered a "new work." In the Wiki situation, there is a specific mention of the art in question being allowed for "Fair Use" purposes. This is because it is considered "Fair Use" to use a copyrighted work in discussions, education, etc, as long as it is not being resold, to a certain extent, in its original form.

It's the exact image that's at issue, not its interpreted contents.

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Morkonan wrote:

Porting to xbox and not linking, that's a completely believable explanation.

You can go back and search my posts, I assume. (Somewhere on this forum should be an easy tool. If not, use Google's site search feature. The proof is there in the content of my posts, generally in the Console forums.

So, to put it in perspective:

If I were to react in the same behavior as I was commenting on...

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..Based on your own admission that's not truth - but just because it's not true it doesn't mean that I haven't already formed a thought process in my hypothetical head that I believe is fact because of my preconceived notions.

I understand that. It's not at issue. But, its seems some people may be quick to jump on a Conspiracy Bandwagon... for reasons unknown. (I don't know why. Do people sockpuppet here a lot or do developers and world-leaders frequenly post here under assumed NICs? :))

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Hopefully that better explains it - note that the above is a hypothetical situation being used as an example. I have no reason to question your very reasonable explanation of why your account is essentially empty.

I don't know what to tell you other than look for confirmation through the posts I have made in the past. I promise I didn't hack the forums to predate a slew of posts. :) I've posted in the Console forum, a few posts in OT, some posts here, some posts on various build threads. The most, I think, outside of the Console sub-forum would have been in Enki's Arc Witch build I played a few months ago. I skipped the last two Leagues, for the most part, so there will be few, if any, posts for a couple of Leagues before Blight. I started in Abyss League, IIRC. (Maybe a few during Incursion, a few during Betrayal, but I played neither of those Leagues for very long and didn't play Legion at all.)

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Lastly, on a truly unrelated note, I must be missing Charan and the other regulars. The forums are like mental games to exercise the brain after mindless repetition.

I don't know who Charan is. I hope he/she is well, though. If not, my condolences.

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ItsAirplane7262 wrote:

...There's no way this is real. Dear God GGG. Please tell me you didn't rip this.

This wouldn't count as a "rip" just because they are similarly designed creatures. The concept isn't unique and, even if it was, they're dissimilar enough that it's clear there is no attempt to portray the original.

However...

What is worrying is the length of the pants. It's not that one leg is shorter than the other, it's that the coverage is pretty much spot-on in terms of ratios. (I can't see key points I'd need for the rest of the model.)

Normally, if something was "ripped" as a 3d asset and re-used, there'd be some retopography done. But, some mapping may be kept and re-used, depending on what was used for retopo work and mapping was preserved.

It's possible to forensically examine 3D objects, even if they have been retopo'd and given that they have certain complexity in order to determine if a work is a true derivative of an original work. (It's not always easy nor would it necessarily be "proof.") If no retopo was done, it's laughably easy to tell if a work is a derivative or if it's actually a copy/paste kind of job. (There's tons and tons of 3D work ripped off directly out of game assets and then put up on sharing sites or even commercial marketplaces to be resold. Running all that stuff down takes an army of people or, better, conscientious and concerned artists who depend on the protection of their work in order to make a living.)

Inspired by? Probably. A "rip?" I'd seriously doubt it... that would be dumb considering the amount of 3D work GGG has had to do and absolutely must specialize in just to keep creating MTX products. People who rip off 3D assets are generally fly-by-night developers selling $5 games on Steam that get taken down a few days after they get put up, but the money's gone by then...

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Morkonan wrote:

I understand that. It's not at issue.

That's the reason we have posted for several pages - my posts are very specifically about an issue that you are completely disregarding. I'm essentially making a social commentary while you're arguing semantics - focusing so much on the little stuff that you're not seeing the larger picture.

It's scary how easily people can be convinced of a "truth" with just partial information and no actual confirmation. If it's something negative over something they feel negatively about, it isn't even questioned, regardless of how farfetched it may sound.

Not everyone is like this - but the number of those that are appear to have grown dramatically. It's impractical to be completely without bias - but the inability for folk to recognize their own bias influencing their decisions and interpretations does not bode well.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

That's the reason we have posted for several pages - my posts are very specifically about an issue that you are completely disregarding. I'm essentially making a social commentary while you're arguing semantics - focusing so much on the little stuff that you're not seeing the larger picture.

You're making a "social commentary" by making some unwarranted assumptions. That's not quite "social commentary" if you're not talking about behavior that is in evidence. (A presentation of evidence of a possible infraction committed by someone does not necessarily mean the presenter is biased against that person/entity.)

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It's scary how easily people can be convinced of a "truth" with just partial information and no actual confirmation. If it's something negative over something they feel negatively about, it isn't even questioned, regardless of how farfetched it may sound.

If you're speaking to people who are eager to seek out and engage in "conspiracy theories" then, yes, that's not an unusual thing for people to enjoy. Want drama? Just click "post conspiracy." (The lack of flashy badges and some public history associated with my NIC was interesting enough to spawn a few on its own... :) )

I don't normally engage in conspiracy-mongering and haven't in this thread.

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Not everyone is like this - but the number of those that are appear to have grown dramatically. It's impractical to be completely without bias - but the inability for folk to recognize their own bias influencing their decisions and interpretations does not bode well.

There have been some posts that do show some sort of bias, certainly. But, the evidence presented was not "biased." It was exacting and required no personal interpretation in order to comprehend its significance. (Though, understanding the true impact of the infraction may take some knowledge or experience with such things.) "Bias" may enter into some of the claims that people did make, but that doesn't effect the credibility or validity of the presented evidence.

That people can be biased and that such preexisting interpretations can unreasonably effect their opinions is not exactly a monumental secret. I would assume that most posters would recognize such things for what they were when they appeared.

At this point, it's clear there's a comprehension issue. I didn't have to assume anything about other people's responses when I was literally referring to what they said specifically.

It's not a good sign when I have to specify something is a hypothetical example several times and the targeted audience still fails to grasp what's being said. Unless of course they're merely deflecting because they actually do understand it - but based on previous responses I'm doubtful.

Yeah, this doesn't happen in the gaming industry at all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx0BKcRJeas

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