General Discussion - Scammed out of 16.3 Exalted Orbs. I feel sick. This has ruined my day. - Forum

" Shagsbeard wrote: That would kind of explain all these posts we get. If one of the RMT sites advises their suppliers to go to the forums and complain they've been scammed, we would see a number of these posts over and over from people following that instruction. A bit too tin-foily for me, but plausible. I do wonder why we keep seeing these types of posts. They have to serve some kind of purpose, other than to make the OP look like a mark. The idea came to my mind after this paragraph from OP, just the other way around :D: I also am aware that GGG keeps track of certain trades to catch RMT stuff. So if a bunch of exalted orbs is traded to someone for nothing, or a worthless item, then that trade might be logged somewhere as suspicious? I am assuming a 16.3 EX trade for this worthless card would be flagged as a suspicious trade. So assuming that GGG has the evidence that I intended to trade this person for his doctor card, and the trade actually was for some worthless card. They might have all the evidence raw and true from their own records available to them? They would be able to tell that this was a mistake and the intent was not to do this trade. They could then just swap back the items? Last edited by ooFunky#7779 on Jul 3, 2019, 10:04:38 AM	Posted by ooFunky#7779 on Jul 3, 2019, 10:04:26 AM Quote this Post
Seems like a decent cover story.	Posted by Shagsbeard#3964 on Jul 3, 2019, 10:09:17 AM Quote this Post
Spoiler " ooFunky wrote: " Shagsbeard wrote: That would kind of explain all these posts we get. If one of the RMT sites advises their suppliers to go to the forums and complain they've been scammed, we would see a number of these posts over and over from people following that instruction. A bit too tin-foily for me, but plausible. I do wonder why we keep seeing these types of posts. They have to serve some kind of purpose, other than to make the OP look like a mark. The idea came to my mind after this paragraph from OP, just the other way around :D: I also am aware that GGG keeps track of certain trades to catch RMT stuff. So if a bunch of exalted orbs is traded to someone for nothing, or a worthless item, then that trade might be logged somewhere as suspicious? I am assuming a 16.3 EX trade for this worthless card would be flagged as a suspicious trade. So assuming that GGG has the evidence that I intended to trade this person for his doctor card, and the trade actually was for some worthless card. They might have all the evidence raw and true from their own records available to them? They would be able to tell that this was a mistake and the intent was not to do this trade. They could then just swap back the items? Can you possibly conceive of the man-hours required to do this? OP got screwed because he didn't pay attention. ~ Please separate the PoE1 and PoE2 forums.	Posted by DoubleU#7266 on Jul 3, 2019, 10:37:03 AM Quote this Post
Sure. That's the most plausible story. But it doesn't explain everything. Why do we see this type of post over and over with exactly the same results and commentary? That's got to serve some purpose... fill some need. It's fun exploring hypotheticals, even silly ones.	Posted by Shagsbeard#3964 on Jul 3, 2019, 10:41:42 AM Quote this Post
- Get scammed - Take to the forums because your situation is different (because it's you this time) - Draw comparisons between losing currency in a video game and the pain of chemo therapy - Selective use of bold text to indicate where people need to pay attention to your complaint - Name and shame on the forums, even though it's against the forum rules - Parlay all the above into a plea to get GGG to get your items backs I'm sure that you claiming that you're experiencing "more sick in my body than the extremely powerful chemotherapy drugs given to you" and letting GGG know that this could negatively affect their business reputation will spur them into action to get your 16 exalts back. Classy, real classy.	Posted by floodcore#3904 on Jul 3, 2019, 1:01:33 PM Quote this Post
" floodcore wrote: - Get scammed - Take to the forums because your situation is different (because it's you this time) - Draw comparisons between losing currency in a video game and the pain of chemo therapy - Selective use of bold text to indicate where people need to pay attention to your complaint - Name and shame on the forums, even though it's against the forum rules - Parlay all the above into a plea to get GGG to get your items backs I'm sure that you claiming that you're experiencing "more sick in my body than the extremely powerful chemotherapy drugs given to you" and letting GGG know that this could negatively affect their business reputation will spur them into action to get your 16 exalts back. Classy, real classy. Exactly. And I'm calling B.S. on the OP's sob story, it's clearly for attention and pity in their hopes that GGG will give them free exalts.	Posted by Gulch#5697 on Jul 3, 2019, 1:14:33 PM Quote this Post
[Removed by Support] If its just a story about your recklessness, and like just want to sharing with the community, its fine. We could be a loving community you know, patting you on your back saying "its just a bad day bro, brighter day awaits you tomorrow" or spitting on your face and saying "haha, scrub", but nevertheless its just for sharing and caring. But no, no no no, it needs to be something about GGG and its system and its "support" for scammer, and something about yada yada I was about to buy supporter pack but then this happen thus I will not support it anymore and not playing anymore as if you are someone that really important to the game longevity and GGG should listen to me because it happens to me and its different and la la la la la. Bro, shit happens and this time you are worse than the shit happening to you. Get yourself together, its only 16 exalt. Yes it feels not good, but you brought this to yourself. When you can afford to buy a doctor card, you can afford to get another 16 exalt. Last edited by Des_GGG#0000 on Jul 3, 2019, 1:52:28 PM	Posted by bewilder2#0356 on Jul 3, 2019, 1:38:08 PM Quote this Post
" ThePathOfExileTM wrote: " ffogell wrote: I would say that is like saying a girl get raped because the way she dress, it putting the burden on the victim while the culpride is the perpetrator and that is disgusting. I am absolutely disgusted at how you can even compare the traumatic event of getting scammed in PoE to rape. I mean, rape is terrible and all but have you even seen what happened to OP? He voluntarily clicked "Accept" in an online video game trade and loss some pixels! I cant imagine what his life must be like now.	Posted by FedeS#7818 on Jul 3, 2019, 2:45:25 PM Quote this Post
" HadesDC wrote: I know that this is not how the game works in its current state. But I am saying that this is how many other games do work (WoW for example). Perhaps PoE has gotten big enough that they could have some staff member looking into these expensive trade errors (10 EX+ perhaps) and trying to see if there is a clear cut mistake made which they could fix? Once something like this is in place someone could be fixing these in less than 5 minutes. And this would mean instead of one of their players (who has given them hundreds of dollars in support) walking away feeling betrayed by GGG for deciding not to allocate some resources to fix these trade scams (and never buy another supporter pack again), would feel even more love for GGG for fixing the trade scam (and feel good about buying more supporter packs over the many years to come). People making these large 10+ EX trades are probably buying lots of these supporter packs... They almost certainly won't make this mistake twice. The 5 minutes to fix it (if the logs and first hand evidence is strong and clear cut) will mean the difference between $0 future profit from that player and potentially hundreds of dollars. Currently the system favors the scammer. You might make some profit off them buying some supporter packs. But for every scammer there could be 10, 20, 30? of their victims who decide they won't be buying any more supporter packs. See, you were doing fine until the "betrayed by GGG" part for not fixing your mistake. As noted, you have learned an expensive lesson and are not likely to repeat the mistake in the future. Regarding having an employee assigned to review trades...let's say they pay one person minimum wage to be the trade review guy: that's a new $36K salary cost (plus training, computer, etc.) so that they can potentially receive your hundreds of future dollars. That's assuming one person could do such a job for a game with tens of thousands of concurrent users that operates 24/7/365. Once word got out that you could contest trade results there would be huge demand for reviews - both legitimate and illegitimate. And how would this policy work if they wanted to reverse a trade? Swap the items back? What if the items are no longer there? What if they've been traded away or spent crafting? Do you reverse all related trades? Do the items go poof like duped items back in D2? What if we had a conversation in Discord during the trade that wasn't captured? No way GGG steps into that quagmire.	Posted by Aixius#5661 on Jul 3, 2019, 3:45:38 PM Quote this Post
" Shagsbeard wrote: Sure. That's the most plausible story. But it doesn't explain everything. Why do we see this type of post over and over with exactly the same results and commentary? That's got to serve some purpose... fill some need. It's fun exploring hypotheticals, even silly ones. I honestly believe this is just a copypasta campaign by the pro AH crowd to bully GGG into giving them what they want.	Posted by AldarisGrave#7629 on Jul 3, 2019, 4:18:03 PM Quote this Post