The arguement against auto trading is what, exactly?...

There is only one argument from GGG side "because we say so"... the end.
They created manifesto about auction house yet when people pointed out that manifesto logic really fails they didnt respond to it at all.

For fuck sake, people, let the competitors to PoE come online. When GGG will start loosing money, they will deny every single oath they've given. Every fucking single one.

You will have AH, they will address standard league and so on. At this point they don't give a shit about your thoughts, because you will play&pay no matter what.

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1453R wrote:

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jtggm1985 wrote:

No offense but if it's automated lowballers are their own worst enemy because they'll be bought out. Bots I can agree would be a problem, price fixers not so much as there's only a finite amount of currency in the game based on how many people are generating it. And price gougers won't be bought from.

It has been explained seven hundred thousand times in seven hundred thousand threads by seven hundred thousand people that an automated trade market would compound the botting issues everybody's pissed off about exponentially and destroy what little equilibrium exists within the current market system.

None of the people who keep posting "TRADE SUCKS!!!!1!" threads care.

They will continue to bitch and moan and piss and spit and raise a ruckus until they get their automated trade market, and then they will have the sheer, infuriating gall to be surprised when it turns out botters take it over in a matter of hours (because none of them have a single bloody clue how botting actually works) and the market turns into a wasteland of hyperinflation and Unobtainium items within a week. SSF is now enforced for everybody whether they click the SSF button or not.

Huzzah "progress".

Nobody besides trade flippers and GGG are pissed off about bots. But if you actually read my post you'd see I agreed that fully automating the system would exacerbate the bot issue. Second, given that this game's highest peak login was a little over 123k on steam, assuming probably about the same for client, we have 246,000 people in game. There's no possible way "700,000" people have tried to defend GGG's stance on trade just like there's ABSOLUTELY no way they said it "700,000" times. Further, there is no "equilibrium" in this market, just like there wouldn't be in an auction house or an automated system. The one who controls all of the game is GGG, and they're running on bad info and false assumptions, and CLEARLY don't know what their players want or expect from them after betrayal, then synthesis leagues adding super huge outside data source requirements to know what to do, and they did it AGAIN with timeless jewels.

Long story short, in this meaningless thread, your meaningless post and my meaningless post both amount to the same: A temporary squawk that isn't worth the data module it's being stored on because we don't run the show, and the people who do run the show are operating on false assumptions, bad intel, and under the hand of the people they owe money to.

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maxkardinal wrote:

For fuck sake, people, let the competitors to PoE come online. When GGG will start loosing money, they will deny every single oath they've given. Every fucking single one.

You will have AH, they will address standard league and so on. At this point they don't give a shit about your thoughts, because you will play&pay no matter what.

as u can see, 0 achievements for me this league?
why, you may ask?
because i dont agree with GGG and i stoped playing, for now, until ah is implemented
i really speak with my wallet now, but ever since they sold to chinese and launched korea, the game went from bad to worse, riddled with bots, scammers and whatnot

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maxkardinal wrote:

For fuck sake, people, let the competitors to PoE come online. When GGG will start loosing money, they will deny every single oath they've given. Every fucking single one.

You will have AH, they will address standard league and so on. At this point they don't give a shit about your thoughts, because you will play&pay no matter what.

Once they do, the ship will sail for POE. You can only annoy the customers so much.

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andreicde wrote:

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maxkardinal wrote:

For fuck sake, people, let the competitors to PoE come online. When GGG will start loosing money, they will deny every single oath they've given. Every fucking single one.

You will have AH, they will address standard league and so on. At this point they don't give a shit about your thoughts, because you will play&pay no matter what.

Once they do, the ship will sail for POE. You can only annoy the customers so much.

Can't wait for last epoch's market to come online.

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j33bus wrote:

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andreicde wrote:

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maxkardinal wrote:

For fuck sake, people, let the competitors to PoE come online. When GGG will start loosing money, they will deny every single oath they've given. Every fucking single one.

You will have AH, they will address standard league and so on. At this point they don't give a shit about your thoughts, because you will play&pay no matter what.

Once they do, the ship will sail for POE. You can only annoy the customers so much.

Can't wait for last epoch's market to come online.

Can't wait for Last Epoch to reach 1.0 so I can play a summoner there with no regrets and no worries about the bs meta forced on new content.

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andreicde wrote:

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maxkardinal wrote:

For fuck sake, people, let the competitors to PoE come online. When GGG will start loosing money, they will deny every single oath they've given. Every fucking single one.

You will have AH, they will address standard league and so on. At this point they don't give a shit about your thoughts, because you will play&pay no matter what.

Once they do, the ship will sail for POE. You can only annoy the customers so much.

I’m not sure if you’ve met reality before or just grew up in fantasy land your whole life. No matter what a company does they are bound to “annoy customers”. That is just a fact of life! Also, some companies have spines and won’t capitulate to the demands of whiners. You just need to accept that sometimes a company just doesn’t care if you, as an individual, are a customer or not. It’s a hard pill to swallow for some, even more so amongst the “entitled generation”.

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fomori2 wrote:

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andreicde wrote:

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maxkardinal wrote:

For fuck sake, people, let the competitors to PoE come online. When GGG will start loosing money, they will deny every single oath they've given. Every fucking single one.

You will have AH, they will address standard league and so on. At this point they don't give a shit about your thoughts, because you will play&pay no matter what.

Once they do, the ship will sail for POE. You can only annoy the customers so much.

I’m not sure if you’ve met reality before or just grew up in fantasy land your whole life. No matter what a company does they are bound to “annoy customers”. That is just a fact of life! Also, some companies have spines and won’t capitulate to the demands of whiners. You just need to accept that sometimes a company just doesn’t care if you, as an individual, are a customer or not. It’s a hard pill to swallow for some, even more so amongst the “entitled generation”.

It does not matter what the company cares, what matters is Tencent's opinion, since they hold about 80% of the shares. Now let me educate you on some facts in life. Investors care about $, once that drops, the investors will pressure the company to make changes to satisfy the customers.

Here is another hard pill to swallow for you. The zoom zoom meta is happening because GGG is catering to the majority, not the minority, as much as they would like to do so (and the minority won't pay their expenses).

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