Feedback and Suggestions (Path of Exile 1) - EXP LOSS POLL - Forum

" Wladicorist1 wrote: im going to ignore this out of context stuff you've wrote because all you do is to make jokes about what i've said So when you use questionable argument i should listen, but when i use the same argument it must be a joke. Seems fair. This thread is about personal opinions. Poll. I stated mine and you immediately jumped in to tell me that there are people who play the game in particular way and they will be punished. Therefore we should adjust the game for this particular group needs, that's what you are saying? Why not for people who don't want to take any damage period? Why are you neglecting this group? Why should i even care about first group? Any set of rules will be punishing for someone. If tomorrow death will grant +1 lvl (because why not, game should give you more power to overcome what stopped you) i'll feel extremely punished.	Posted by heedkid#6333 on Jul 19, 2019, 3:48:46 PM Quote this Post
" heedkid wrote: " Wladicorist1 wrote: im going to ignore this out of context stuff you've wrote because all you do is to make jokes about what i've said So when you use questionable argument i should listen, but when i use the same argument it must be a joke. Seems fair. This thread is about personal opinions. Poll. I stated mine and you immediately jumped in to tell me that there are people who play the game in particular way and they will be punished. Therefore we should adjust the game for this particular group needs, that's what you are saying? Why not for people who don't want to take any damage period? Why are you neglecting this group? Why should i even care about first group? Any set of rules will be punishing for someone. If tomorrow death will grant +1 lvl (because why not, game should give you more power to overcome what stopped you) i'll feel extremely punished. no i just wont take it serious because you arguing on a irony level like "oh lets remove damage because lol so i can play single handedly" whats that kind of? "There are Penalties in the Game, no one's complaining about them" Chris Wilson Exilecon 2019	Posted by Wladicorist1#5599 on Jul 19, 2019, 4:13:09 PM Quote this Post
Heedkid, I don't think the comparison is fair. The first reason is that damage is a vital part of the game. Remove that and most of the mechanics fall apart (itemization, monster attacks, traps...). Penalty, on the other hand, doesn't touch anything other than itself. The second reason is that the penalty promotes absurd game play, while it is unreasonable to say that damages does so. A lot of players find themselves avoiding the parts of the game that they (and almost every player) enjoy, and end up playing in an un enjoyable fashion just to avoid the penalty. Considering that, I don't think it is unreasonable to request GGG to address the issues caused by the penalty. I am not saying they should fix it one specific way, like removing it entirely or changing it to that one specific version, as they may find a better way of fixing the issue. I do believe that they should fix it, though. And in the meantime, I am enjoying other games that don't require as much masochism.	Posted by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019, 9:09:44 AM
" Qiu_Qiu wrote: Heedkid, I don't think the comparison is fair. The first reason is that damage is a vital part of the game. Remove that and most of the mechanics fall apart (itemization, monster attacks, traps...). Penalty, on the other hand, doesn't touch anything other than itself. The second reason is that the penalty promotes absurd game play, while it is unreasonable to say that damages does so. A lot of players find themselves avoiding the parts of the game that they (and almost every player) enjoy, and end up playing in an un enjoyable fashion just to avoid the penalty. Considering that, I don't think it is unreasonable to request GGG to address the issues caused by the penalty. I am not saying they should fix it one specific way, like removing it entirely or changing it to that one specific version, as they may find a better way of fixing the issue. I do believe that they should fix it, though. And in the meantime, I am enjoying other games that don't require as much masochism. obviously that was a jibe (google translated cus im german) from him i made a normal argument and he talks sarcastic about that like why do monsters even need to make dmg? that bothers me ... "There are Penalties in the Game, no one's complaining about them" Chris Wilson Exilecon 2019	Posted by Wladicorist1#5599 on Jul 20, 2019, 3:24:36 PM Quote this Post
the experience penalty is ridiculously high and ANNOYING A.F., it's basically a "ha-ha, you dumb-ass you just wasted your time trying to level-up, try again because we have no idea of how to actually add difficulty, only this artificial bull**it XP loss and negative resistances... oh and of course dying in 1/2 second because of frame drops or overwhelming crap that builds up in an instant" IT is very, very discouraging and frustrating losing so much experience that takes so long to get back after level 92 especially. Last edited by Zirazel#0695 on Jul 20, 2019, 4:33:32 PM	Posted by Zirazel#0695 on Jul 20, 2019, 4:30:00 PM Quote this Post
" Wladicorist1 wrote: we just need a seperate league for people who dont want to lose exp progression thats it i think chris is affraid people would like it more than the one with penalty because people would actually care more about the builds on the tree and actual gear ....................................... The only reason why most people consider defenses as something needed ( I'm pretty sure that most don't really know how they work though tbh ) is because of the xp penalty on death. Remove it, and most players will likely just stop considering defensive gear and go full bananas dps and that's it, the exact opposite of what you are pretending it would become. " Wladicorist1 wrote: no i just wont take it serious because you arguing on a irony level Yeah, you said something silly and he pointed it out. And now you are just refusing to accept it. SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.	Posted by Fruz#6137 on Jul 21, 2019, 2:50:22 AM Quote this Post
One thing for sure is that players shouldn't be punished for deaths due to lag.	Posted by CoolGray10#9171 on Jul 21, 2019, 2:57:23 AM Quote this Post
As long as their servers are run on hamster wheels, it should be removed.	Posted by Nulledout#3809 on Jul 21, 2019, 2:33:33 PM Quote this Post
" Paldamus wrote: I don't like a regression mechanic like exp loss. It stops normal players from progressing their characters (which is the whole point of an rpg) and the extreme players get to 100 regardless. Removing xp penalty wouldn't cause everyone to easily get to 100 like some people say, because most people quit their characters around 85-90 anyway and the extreme players will get 100 anyway. The only people it would affect, would be the above average players who then might want to push beyond 95 etc. Clueless. It's not that we intentionally quit builds or don't care about 100, it's that reaching 100 requires running mind-numbingly safe content in order to not die in a freak accident. An idiot like me whose goal is to clear a phys reflect red map with nothing but immortal call to protect me from reflect will never reach 100. And that is fine.	Posted by Anonymous1749704#5648 on Jul 21, 2019, 2:44:11 PM Quote this Post
You guys should judge whether exp loss should be in this game within its own context. Technical problems like server lag are a completely different issue and has no place here. " Anonymous1749704 wrote: reaching 100 requires running mind-numbingly safe content What is safe content anyway? I spammed T16 maps and memories last league to get to 100, even then it still took a long while. I can't even imagine running yellow maps to get to 100.	Posted by Revnaut#0808 on Jul 21, 2019, 10:15:48 PM Quote this Post