EXP LOSS POLL

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Fruz wrote:
It's not because you cannot come up with a single relevant analogy (because you lack experience, knowledge and arguments clearly) that there can't be any .... nice strawman.

not relevant to you so just keep talking to someone else then
allright so you automatically think that i have no experience knowledge and arguments although i've played the game probably longer than you
how naive your comments are untopable in ignorance and arrogance
i've brought up many arguments only because it doesnt fit in your small pony world doesnt mean its not an argument
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Fruz wrote:
Because pointing out all the flaws and nonsense if what you are saying is only "shittalking" amaright ?

yep <3
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Fruz wrote:
Wow, this is so IRONIC lol !
PoE is a game that has been originally designed for hardcore gamers (and the xp penalty on death has always been there), you just arrive and start spreading nonsensical things that you view as argument to change it (for worse), and everybody who shows you how silly what you are saying is .... egotistical ??

hahahaha

dude i've been against death penalty since closed beta...
so stop saying i've just arrived and started spreading nonsensical things
only because you dont see them as arguments and it doesnt fit in your worldview
doesnt mean they arent arguments
to me the only one who is talking nonsense is you and rob

death penalty sucks end of story
"There are Penalties in the Game, no one's complaining about them"
Chris Wilson Exilecon 2019
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Wladicorist1 wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
It's not because you cannot come up with a single relevant analogy (because you lack experience, knowledge and arguments clearly) that there can't be any .... nice strawman.

not relevant to you so just keep talking to someone else then
allright so you automatically think that i have no experience knowledge and arguments although i've played the game probably longer than you
how naive your comments are untopable in ignorance and arrogance
i've brought up many arguments only because it doesnt fit in your small pony world doesnt mean its not an argument
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Fruz wrote:
Because pointing out all the flaws and nonsense if what you are saying is only "shittalking" amaright ?

yep <3
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Fruz wrote:
Wow, this is so IRONIC lol !
PoE is a game that has been originally designed for hardcore gamers (and the xp penalty on death has always been there), you just arrive and start spreading nonsensical things that you view as argument to change it (for worse), and everybody who shows you how silly what you are saying is .... egotistical ??

hahahaha

dude i've been against death penalty since closed beta...
so stop saying i've just arrived and started spreading nonsensical things
only because you dont see them as arguments and it doesnt fit in your worldview
doesnt mean they arent arguments
to me the only one who is talking nonsense is you and rob

death penalty sucks end of story


Death is meant to suck. You seem to fail to understand the basic concepts of failure, and learning from said failures
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Heero_mikazuki wrote:
Death is meant to suck. You seem to fail to understand the basic concepts of failure, and learning from said failures

and you seem to fail to understand that i just dont like the concept of the death penalty in this game ...
at lvl 93+ i just dont give a damn sh*t because i know i cant play risky content
without dying
stop talking if you dont even understand what i mean ...
even if i would be lvl 100 i would still dont like the death penalty
"There are Penalties in the Game, no one's complaining about them"
Chris Wilson Exilecon 2019
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Wladicorist1 wrote:
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Heero_mikazuki wrote:
Death is meant to suck. You seem to fail to understand the basic concepts of failure, and learning from said failures

and you seem to fail to understand that i just dont like the concept of the death penalty in this game ...
at lvl 93+ i just dont give a damn sh*t because i know i cant play risky content
without dying
stop talking if you dont even understand what i mean ...
even if i would be lvl 100 i would still dont like the death penalty


You hate being punished for losing. You think no mater how badly you play, you should be able to reach max level. You are blizzards current target audience, the type of person who wants to be rewarded the same no mater how much effort and skill is put into the game.

If your main goal is to reach max level, you're doing it wrong.

You tell me to stop talking? I'll tell you to start listening. What you don't like is irrelevant, if you don't like dying, add more survivability to your build
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Heero_mikazuki wrote:
You hate being punished for losing. You think no mater how badly you play, you should be able to reach max level. You are blizzards current target audience, the type of person who wants to be rewarded the same no mater how much effort and skill is put into the game.

If your main goal is to reach max level, you're doing it wrong.

You tell me to stop talking? I'll tell you to start listening. What you don't like is irrelevant, if you don't like dying, add more survivability to your build

i think you didnt even played diablo not a single game of the series
even d3 punishes you but its almost nothing
btw audience there are games for a audience like you also
you buy the game you die once you can never play it again except you buy again
if you dont get what i mean by that you shouldnt talk to me anyway
what i dont like is relevant to me dude i dont care if you like it or not
ill say my opinion anyway
and i never set lvl 100 as my goal where did i said that?
the problem with this is that its to dumb for me to lvl up to 100
it takes alot of time and gives me almost nothing in reward thats why i never going for lvl 100
and you should read properly what i dont like is the death penalty
either im dying or not doesnt mean anything i have enough survivability in my builds its just im playing risky content so i can live with the fact that i die sometimes
its just death penalty sucks still
because im not gonna run 24/7 t11-13 maps until im 100 ...
because=no fun
no fun=bad game
bad game=bad game mechanics
bad game mechanics=death penealty
"There are Penalties in the Game, no one's complaining about them"
Chris Wilson Exilecon 2019
So you know there is no reason to level up, yet you are basing your entire playstyle around leveling up, yet you don't care for leveling up, yet every time you lose progress towards leveling, you get upset because not leveling up isn't fun?

Maybe i'm struggling to figure out what you want because you have no idea what you want.

In diablo 2 you had to run back to your corpse to collect your gear, what are you going on about when saying d2 was less punishing?
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Heero_mikazuki wrote:
So you know there is no reason to level up, yet you are basing your entire playstyle around leveling up, yet you don't care for leveling up, yet every time you lose progress towards leveling, you get upset because not leveling up isn't fun?

Maybe i'm struggling to figure out what you want because you have no idea what you want.

In diablo 2 you had to run back to your corpse to collect your gear, what are you going on about when saying d2 was less punishing?

and here we go
no further explaination needed thanks :)
"There are Penalties in the Game, no one's complaining about them"
Chris Wilson Exilecon 2019
Many people here dont understand so many things.

Death penalty as it is, is only annoying because:

1)You loose tons of EXP on high levels, which is equall to x hours played. This x hours is way to big value comparing to other games. Though that wouldnt be a problem if not for the other points listed below.

2)You often get bursted in 1 sec by unknown factors thus you cannot learn from it. There is no death recap implemented in the game.

3)The game design is very inconsistent - mobs in the same area deal you 1% hp dmg and other can instantly kill you.

4)There is no real reward for taking risk in POE. You can loose few hours of gameplay time, but you cannot win few hours of farming time if you success.

5)The game got serious balancing problems which leads to radiculous bottleneck in build diversity, just like current cyclone meta. Death penalty punish you additionally for taking risk and trying to experiment with new builds. Most people just stick to meta which is boring and counter to what this game was supposed to be.

6)There is tons of other, better solutions in terms of creating death penalty system.

7)Some people who are against rework or removal of death penalty, play HC. There they use ALT+F4 (or even illegal scripts) to shut down game client to avoid this penalty. This is hyporcisy at its finest.
Last edited by herflik#4390 on Jul 6, 2019, 6:03:55 PM
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herflik wrote:
Many people here dont understand so many things.

7)Some people who are against rework or removal of death penalty, play HC. There they use ALT+F4 (or even illegal scripts) to shut down game client to avoid this penalty. This is hyporcisy at its finest.


*facepalm* you say that end then cap this off with strawman about illegal scripts?

points 1-6 being laughably factless don't help, either. dying at clvl 95+ in d2 wasn't anything like this...
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Heero_mikazuki wrote:
Death is meant to suck. You seem to fail to understand the basic concepts of failure, and learning from said failures


Ok. Let's imagine the penalty "Your computer crashes, your cat dies, and your house bursts into flames.".
You are going to tell me "But that would be a crazy penalty.", to which I could simply answer, like you did:
"Death is meant to suck. You seem to fail to understand the basic concepts of failure, and learning from said failures".


If the argument can be used to defend insane penalties, then it's an awful argument. Please don't use that kind of crap.

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