EXP LOSS POLL

I'm all for changes, but that change directly makes it so even the worst of players could grind their way to 100. Leveling to 100 would take no time or effort even with that penalty. There needs to be something in the game to separate a great from a shit player, especially since they already made it so any shit player can grind OP enough gear to clear all the content.

Oh yeah, I didn't fully get what you were saying. I thought the length was cumulative, that probably would work.

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Crackmonster wrote:

"We here at GGG have a lot of systems in place to punish players if they aren't good enough so they can't play the characters they like and progress however slow they want. It is something we are very proud of."

Game design logic 101

recently read a post from a reddit user that had a conversation via pm
with chris literally was worried about 5 people who complained about the penalty being reduced from 15% to 10% :D

well before i talk to much here is the actual reddit post
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/9kasg7/super_unpopular_opinion_the_death_penalty_kinda/

scroll down to the comment from "OverdriveA"

the penalty is criticized like every weak
and GGG still worrying about MTX...

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Revnaut wrote:

Wouldn't that just move the punishment to the other side? The exp bonus becomes the standard, and dying means you're getting punished with less exp than other people. No matter how you cut it, dying will always have a punishment associated with it. I mean you can also look at the reverse of that and say people are given a great reward for not dying by not losing 10% of their exp.

i think its not that 10% its the time people losing they (me included) feeling like they're wasted time to get up to a certain amount of exp
and then it simply gets erased
imagine making my job as a musician i work hours upon hours lets be it 10 hours on a new song and before i finish it the program says nah dude you lose 3 hours of your progress...
feels time wasting
"dying itself is a punishment allready"

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Heero_mikazuki wrote:

Ask for god mode. Then you'll be able to play any build

troll

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robmafia wrote:

...and if you do your job poorly, you get fired.

this thread indicates that people want to do poorly, not get penalized, but get rewarded for sucking/failing, instead.

thats your imagination again
no one here wants to be rewarded for failing
they just want it fair only because you think its ok doesnt mean others have to agree with that ...

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Fruz wrote:

"Oh, I have a 12 hours penalty ... I guess I won't be playing for the next 12 hours then ..."
way to loose players.

did you actually know that alot of players leaving because of the penalty?
lol poor argument ...

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

did you actually know that alot of players leaving because of the penalty?
lol poor argument ...

Actually I'd say you have no clue about how many players are leaving for any reason. None. Those numbers are not available to the public. Are there players who are leaving due to the death penalty, yes I'm sure there are, but the game doesn't have to cater to everyone. Clearly it is still attracting large numbers who inexplicably buy the MTX and supporter packs (I'm glad they do, but whatever). I think the 10% penalty is about right and works well. The only gripe I have is dying due to PoE server side and optimization errors but as far as usual gameplay keep the penalty as it is.

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Mythreindeer wrote:

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

did you actually know that alot of players leaving because of the penalty?
lol poor argument ...

Actually I'd say you have no clue about how many players are leaving for any reason. None. Those numbers are not available to the public. Are there players who are leaving due to the death penalty, yes I'm sure there are, but the game doesn't have to cater to everyone. Clearly it is still attracting large numbers who inexplicably buy the MTX and supporter packs (I'm glad they do, but whatever). I think the 10% penalty is about right and works well. The only gripe I have is dying due to PoE server side and optimization errors but as far as usual gameplay keep the penalty as it is.

you only read one sentence and that was clearly what you've quoted
telling me i have no clue
yeah allright man seems like you've not been long around here
clearly it attracts people in the first week of league start
let alone the steam numbers talk i the dark number is much higher
now i see who has no clue :D

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Qiu_Qiu wrote:

Let's be honest here, rob was just trolling by misrepresenting what was being asked for,

how so?

oops, this is just another baseless accusation that won't ever be backed up.

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Qiu_Qiu wrote:

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Fruz wrote:

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And I have yet to see you try to come up with a penalty that would fulfill your standards.
Because whatever suggestion I make, it feels to me that you will always disagree that it fulfills them.

For example, let's say, when your character dies, you get a cumulative 25% less XP for 40% of a level (making it effectively 10% of a level, like the current one), you will still dislike it, despite it not feeling as massive as the current one, and having less loopholes than when you don't get a penalty at 0%.

...why would he suggest a change when you're the one that wants it to be changed?

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

thats your imagination again
no one here wants to be rewarded for failing

i literally quoted 2 people on the previous page who said otherwise.

...one was you.