Automated currency pickup would make me so happy

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Kulze wrote:

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lolcaaa wrote:

Great idea man and the next step could be that you could minimalize PoE and it will play itself so you don't need to bother to enjoy a game.

Yes, that's why people didn't flock to Grim Dawn as soon as an expansion came out, just because they offer this QoL-mechanic basically any game has by now.
Also sure, auto-pickup in any game makes it automatically self-play, like in Guild Wars 2, you basically had to do nothing anymore as a single push of a button transfered everything to your inventory.

Oh wait! It was actually the other way around and people liked it. Weird. Very weird. I think you might have something wrong in your deduction there, something about 'not everything is black or white' maybe. Just as a thought.

This. I think most players who play GD use the mod that enables auto-collect of components and crafting materials. D3 has it for several types of currencies. Most MMOs have some form of optional auto-loot. It's just a modern, QoL feature that I agree would be nice in PoE if it was just for currency (since we don't have the inventory space for other things).

The notion that it makes the game play itself is laughable, but I guess it wouldn't be the GGG forums without the obligatory "first reply is always troll" comment. Where would we be without that guy?

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Even if they don't want to fully automate it, they could take the approach that they used in Sacred 2: Press a key and it loots everything in radius (based on preset filters). Set your filter to currency only and you're good to go.

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Kulze wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

if you give players 1 automation they will ask for next qol and in the end it will be an afk waiting game.

I won't even get far into this notion here. Yes, people generally ask for QoL increases. No, people don't mindlessly expect changes which don't bother them in a way.
Sure, some will ask for more changes, that's a given.

If a mechanic literally starts to cause... as mentioned so often... carpal-tunnel-syndrome, then friggin change it, no excuse for that stuff.

i dont think picking up stuff would cause the carptal tunnel over other actions in the game ^^
i find moving harder

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Kulze wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

i ve played games where bots run rampant before. i basicly hate it. with poe its different.

Sorry to say it in this manner but... are you blind? No offense there, but either that or you're very naive.

any 3rd pt program in poe would get you instantly banned and any sort of bots are useless in poe imo. so i am not worried about bots. cant care less. but i would hate this bot type of feature adding into the game.

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Kulze wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

player interactions are the most profitable thing in the game. i love this concept and i dont want it to be ruined by something shitty like autopickup.

It doesn't have to be, also it wouldn't ruin player interaction. Sensible implementation, there's not only a single way to make something work. Also, as mentioned before an alternative solution is to have the system stack low-tier currency until a full stack is finished, then drop it.

the last part is fine for a group of lootxplosions like lab chests. but i disagreeon first part. keep every possible implementation of this type of feature out of poe.

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Kulze wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

i dont need to explain to you what 1 key 1 action means in poe. ggg specifies these macros and allow them. but when it comes to picking up all of your screen, it takes time. time you can spend doing something else in the game.

Like killing mobs and progressing your Atlas, Delve, Fractured crafts and so on? Those things which got so much that you won't finish some in a league by now, even as a no-lifer?

i am mostly done with a league in 3 weeks. if not im probably disabled by a broken hand. this includes every side content. so picking up stuff doesnt really take most of my time and im not bothered by it.

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Kulze wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

This desicion might effect your gameplay and add or remove from your experience.

I'll say it would add mostly... well... unless the game is so non-substantial that removing the tedious parts would destroy it outright. But that would only mean that PoE wasn't up 'to-par' anyway.
Right now we got so much tedious and frustrating stuff in the game while fun parts are trickling in. Probably when removing those tedious things we'll suddenly see all those issues which were there all along. So yes, you're right, it might make people speak up about other issues which aren't as large as the current ones.

but what are those fun parts? fun can be a very subjective term. i can have fun while picking up stuff from ground. can you be certain about whats tedious to each and every player in the game?

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Kulze wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

instead of doing that in poe players has the choice to pick up smaller currencies to turn into another one in later stages of the game. i d like to say it adds another layer of excitement in grinding.

The only reason smaller currency isn't picked up is because it would take ages... adjust the drops, make auto-pickup, get the same feeling.
The only thing it removes is the hurting hand after a while and it lets you focus on the game-play itself rather then the stuff around it.

You know, making the game itself great, the core experience, not taking the Sisyphus-stuff around it as an excuse why the core-experience is lackluster. Both parts are able to be combined, they aren't mutually exclusive.

i disagree. making auto pickup would lose every meaning on joy coming from dropping something valuable.
about this hand-hurting excuses; in many hours of poe gameplay picking up stuff wouldnt even take 5% of the time. im fine with spending 5% of my gameplay time on a looting spree.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

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Sorry to say it in this manner but... are you blind? No offense there, but either that or you're very naive.

any 3rd pt program in poe would get you instantly banned and any sort of bots are useless in poe imo. so i am not worried about bots. cant care less. but i would hate this bot type of feature adding into the game.

This says it all. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Bots are everywhere. You get spammed in chat by them. Most of your currency trades are with them--to the point that players are now DEFENDING THEM as necessary for trade to function. GGG either can't or won't do anything to get rid of them. Quite to the contrary, they are opening the game up to even more of them thanks to their international version.

Thanks for letting me know I can and should disregard your posts since you don't know enough about what's going on and don't make sensible points.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

no automation should be allowed in an arpg.

I agree all minions and auto aim skills(wo) should be removed from the game. Luckily you don't play any of those since you agree that no automation should exist in an arpg!

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Mortyx wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

no automation should be allowed in an arpg.

I agree all minions and auto aim skills(wo) should be removed from the game. Luckily you don't play any of those since you agree that no automation should exist in an arpg!

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

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Sorry to say it in this manner but... are you blind? No offense there, but either that or you're very naive.

any 3rd pt program in poe would get you instantly banned and any sort of bots are useless in poe imo. so i am not worried about bots. cant care less. but i would hate this bot type of feature adding into the game.

I have a friend who uses trademacro, lutbot and Path of Building and is a regular on the fanmade wiki, poelab, poedb, poe.ninja, poe.trade, poeapp and will occasionally even visit the one non-3rd-party webside pathofexile.com.
You are rank 40 and one doesn't get there without learning a ton about this game, so I assume you know your stuff. This quote does not hold up.

There are trade-chat bots, that much I know. The rest imo is speculation and none of us has the hard numbers to back up that there are tons of / only very few bots in poe.

Again exiles, try to remain constructive and non-toxic even when faced with different opionions. Also try not to think in absolutes, they are rarely the reality:

"Break the game" get's thrown around here a lot. It is not something that any of the suggestions here is capable of. Cause a change in the economy? Sure.

"Ruin the fun". Whats fun in PoE differs for players. As I stated in my original post, I think none of us understand the range of players as well as GGG. Even if you disagree with a lot of GGGs action, I will continue to assume that the company developing this game for 8 years as a fulltime job knows more about it then some guy on a forum.
Keep in mind that your way of enjoying PoE is not the only one and not the "correct" one. What you read on the forums is the opinions of a vocal minority, most players never visit the forums. Only GGG has the numbers to take those players into account. Some playertypes I know of:

There are players who care about the story in PoE. They exist. Really. I find it hard to believe myself, but they do. I guess they would be neutral to any auto-pickup.

Chris wrote somewhere that 50%ish of players don't trade (I think it was the trade manifesto). Anybody who is not trading will not be negatively affected by any form of auto-pickup (unless I missed something?).

Many players aim for Act 10 in a league and then they are done. In flashback I myself quite enjoyed playing a SSF character without any late-game plan, just checking how far I'd come. I suspect this player group would love to spent less time picking up and more time progressing the story. I hated how scrolls slowed my character down.

Then there are players who love collecting, picking up and looting. They find little enjoyment in one-click-combat. I guess many objections to auto-pickup come from those players, as a badly implemented auto-pick-system could really "ruin the game" for them. It would take away the one aspect they enjoy most. I hear you. I feel like some responses in here don't respect this player group.
If you enjoy looting, please also don't deal in absolutes. Don't condemn every automatisation. Tell us how you would go about it. I guess you don't want auto-pickup for all currency. Maybe a key to pickup all currency in a range of 20? The currency-stack-solution? I suspect clicking on scrolls, alterations and splinters is not something you actively enjoy. Where is the middle ground you'd like to see?

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Lightelder wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

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Sorry to say it in this manner but... are you blind? No offense there, but either that or you're very naive.

any 3rd pt program in poe would get you instantly banned and any sort of bots are useless in poe imo. so i am not worried about bots. cant care less. but i would hate this bot type of feature adding into the game.

I have a friend who uses trademacro, lutbot and Path of Building and is a regular on the fanmade wiki, poelab, poedb, poe.ninja, poe.trade, poeapp and will occasionally even visit the one non-3rd-party webside pathofexile.com.
You are rank 40 and one doesn't get there without learning a ton about this game, so I assume you know your stuff. This quote does not hold up.

There are trade-chat bots, that much I know. The rest imo is speculation and none of us has the hard numbers to back up that there are tons of / only very few bots in poe.

trademacro and lutbot should be bannable aswell.
i ve been outspoken about this. any 3rd pt program that gives you advantage over other players should be bannable and ggg do ban people using stupid autoanswer macros. they should ban any other 3rd pt program that injects themselves into client.

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Mortyx wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

no automation should be allowed in an arpg.

I agree all minions and auto aim skills(wo) should be removed from the game. Luckily you don't play any of those since you agree that no automation should exist in an arpg!

in order for spectres to attack you have to move or attack aswell.
not automated; next argument please!

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in order for spectres to attack you have to move or attack aswell.
not automated; next argument please!

Agreed, in order for an auction house to function you need to walk to your stash to post an item and set a price.
Not automated; next argument please!

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

trademacro and lutbot should be bannable aswell.
i ve been outspoken about this. any 3rd pt program that gives you advantage over other players should be bannable and ggg do ban people using stupid autoanswer macros. they should ban any other 3rd pt program that injects themselves into client.

Interesting position, making trade more clunky by removing QoL-macros would be in line with the trade manifesto afaik... On the other hand using third party sites is hardly controllable. And imo poe.ninja and that stuff is nice and enriches the game. Without poedb the synthesizer would have been a nightmare... Having a macro for replies is imo preferable to not replying at all (which is what many would do without macro, since they don't like dieing while replying). And not using PoB would definitely downgrade the game for me, guess I have a totally different opinion on this.

Kinda drifting off-topic, wether or not any automatisation is in the game already does not rly affect the issue of picking up scrolls, filter out shards and spent time collecting splinters instead of fighting. If/how to handle this issue is the topic of this threat.