Automated currency pickup would make me so happy

Automated currency pickup is a terrible idea. I dont want POE move towards this direction. We would see huge bot number influx with this feature.

no automation should be allowed in an arpg.

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Qiu_Qiu wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

no automation should be allowed in an arpg.

I find it hard to point out that a lot of QoL you take for granted is automation without being sarcastic. Some very basic stuff, like Trigger gems, auto-map, or even click-and-hold.
Don't be dogmatic in your assessment of the suggestion. If you look at it properly, you could even find solutions that solve the issue op is describing without causing the issues you are worried about.

trigger gems is a concept in poe that is triggered by spesific actions.
in order to cwdt you need to move and get attacked by monsters
in order to cast when crit you have to attack as melee
in order to cast when channel you have to use a spell or barrage or cyclone in 3.7
auto map?? ?
clicking is an action its not automated.

show me a proper example or i wont take your comments seriously

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_iLLuSia_ wrote:

Automated currency pickup belongs into every game but PoE, or into every game where there is only one currency, like gold. In PoE this immediately becomes overly complex and need irritating solutions like the ones you proposed:

Dont we have lootfilter for that? No one ever complained, when GGG added that feature. So why they cant add another string (EnableAutoPickup) to itemfilter?
Most other ARPGs have auto-pickup and player love that feature. No one likes to click over Alteration Orbs or something in the heat of combat.

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Dr1MaR wrote:

I like how you speak for everyone. No dude I don’t want that shit in Poe.

Why not? A reasoning would be great to see if the issue can be taken care of while pleasing those who want it. Otherwise it's just a hard no and won't help anyone.

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Monkeyface wrote:

Automated currency pickup is a terrible idea. I dont want POE move towards this direction. We would see huge bot number influx with this feature.

That's actually a reasonable thing to think about.
Instead dropping low-tier currency in stacks would be a sensible on in this case. Have the system build up a counter in the background and only drop for example wisdom-scrolls as soon as a full stack of drops would've been reached, no matter the source of the drop.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

no automation should be allowed in an arpg.

Why not?
It doesn't add or remove anything from the game-play itself, it's just taking away to very awkward targeting of drops to a degree... as well as allowing to actually show items and focus on those, more power to the rares!

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

clicking is an action its not automated.

One-action macros. Teleporting to HO, logout-macro. Those are automated mechanics allowed. Sure, you'll have to set them up, but they're there.

Do the same with currency pickup. A button to loot every currency in the vicinity and it has the same setup.

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Kulze wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

no automation should be allowed in an arpg.

Why not?
It doesn't add or remove anything from the game-play itself, it's just taking away to very awkward targeting of drops to a degree... as well as allowing to actually show items and focus on those, more power to the rares!

if you give players 1 automation they will ask for next qol and in the end it will be an afk waiting game. anyway thats not my main issue. i ve played games where bots run rampant before. i basicly hate it. with poe its different. player interactions are the most profitable thing in the game. i love this concept and i dont want it to be ruined by something shitty like autopickup. you can say its more of a personal objection instead of a logical, all over one. even tho i think it would be bad overall.

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Kulze wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

clicking is an action its not automated.

One-action macros. Teleporting to HO, logout-macro. Those are automated mechanics allowed. Sure, you'll have to set them up, but they're there.

Do the same with currency pickup. A button to loot every currency in the vicinity and it has the same setup.

i dont need to explain to you what 1 key 1 action means in poe. ggg specifies these macros and allow them. but when it comes to picking up all of your screen, it takes time. time you can spend doing something else in the game. this desicion might effect your gameplay and add or remove from your experience. this is why picking up something is a player's choice instead of an automated action. it would be meaningless to fill your inventory with all the shit on the ground. instead of doing that in poe players has the choice to pick up smaller currencies to turn into another one in later stages of the game. i d like to say it adds another layer of excitement in grinding.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

if you give players 1 automation they will ask for next qol and in the end it will be an afk waiting game.

Nope, lol.
Many games automated loot pickup to a certain degree, and still not turned into "affk waiting". In fact, if players want to play game as "afk waiting", it tels something about how "interesting" it really is. If game is boring as hell, sure players would like to bot it instead of playing themselves (like it happens with PoE).

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

if you give players 1 automation they will ask for next qol and in the end it will be an afk waiting game.

I won't even get far into this notion here. Yes, people generally ask for QoL increases. No, people don't mindlessly expect changes which don't bother them in a way.
Sure, some will ask for more changes, that's a given.

If a mechanic literally starts to cause... as mentioned so often... carpal-tunnel-syndrome, then friggin change it, no excuse for that stuff.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

i ve played games where bots run rampant before. i basicly hate it. with poe its different.

Sorry to say it in this manner but... are you blind? No offense there, but either that or you're very naive.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

player interactions are the most profitable thing in the game. i love this concept and i dont want it to be ruined by something shitty like autopickup.

It doesn't have to be, also it wouldn't ruin player interaction. Sensible implementation, there's not only a single way to make something work. Also, as mentioned before an alternative solution is to have the system stack low-tier currency until a full stack is finished, then drop it.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

i dont need to explain to you what 1 key 1 action means in poe. ggg specifies these macros and allow them. but when it comes to picking up all of your screen, it takes time. time you can spend doing something else in the game.

Like killing mobs and progressing your Atlas, Delve, Fractured crafts and so on? Those things which got so much that you won't finish some in a league by now, even as a no-lifer?

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

This desicion might effect your gameplay and add or remove from your experience.

I'll say it would add mostly... well... unless the game is so non-substantial that removing the tedious parts would destroy it outright. But that would only mean that PoE wasn't up 'to-par' anyway.
Right now we got so much tedious and frustrating stuff in the game while fun parts are trickling in. Probably when removing those tedious things we'll suddenly see all those issues which were there all along. So yes, you're right, it might make people speak up about other issues which aren't as large as the current ones.

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

instead of doing that in poe players has the choice to pick up smaller currencies to turn into another one in later stages of the game. i d like to say it adds another layer of excitement in grinding.

The only reason smaller currency isn't picked up is because it would take ages... adjust the drops, make auto-pickup, get the same feeling.
The only thing it removes is the hurting hand after a while and it lets you focus on the game-play itself rather then the stuff around it.

You know, making the game itself great, the core experience, not taking the Sisyphus-stuff around it as an excuse why the core-experience is lackluster. Both parts are able to be combined, they aren't mutually exclusive.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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MrsDeath_ wrote:

if you give players 1 automation they will ask for next qol and in the end it will be an afk waiting game.

Nope, lol.
Many games automated loot pickup to a certain degree, and still not turned into "affk waiting". In fact, if players want to play game as "afk waiting", it tels something about how "interesting" it really is. If game is boring as hell, sure players would like to bot it instead of playing themselves (like it happens with PoE).

i can talk certain about auto pickup in poe; it will never happen.