[3.6] Chaos Popcorn Trickster (23.6m Shaper DPS with current gear)

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Kurnis wrote:
Does this build die a lot? 6k ehp seems low.

Kill or be killed xD

I switched to this build and came from an Hybrid Scourge Arrow Trickster (my league starter). I had ~23k Evasion + Acro + Phase Acro and arround 600k Shaper DPS (with charges / without flasks) - Now that I've switched to this build I feel squishy AF tbh...

Using those items:
Spoiler




Put arround 13ex into the build and yes, I feel squishy.

Last edited by elbramso on Apr 3, 2019, 7:02:55 AM
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i tried altering the tree to fit in unnatural instict but i Always end up with less Damage/hp Maybe someone could help me best regards

Why even use a UI? The only place UI shines is near Scion tree and works best with double Might of the Meek and full Health cluster near Scion.

Better of selling your UI and actually buy upgraded gear for that.
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elbramso wrote:
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Kurnis wrote:
Does this build die a lot? 6k ehp seems low.

Kill or be killed xD

I switched to this build and came from an Hybrid Scourge Arrow Trickster (my league starter). I had ~23k Evasion + Acro + Phase Acro and arround 600k Shaper DPS (with charges / without flasks) - Now that I've switched to this build I feel squishy AF tbh...

Using those items:
Spoiler




Put arround 13ex into the build and yes, I feel squishy.



Yikes. you have really good gear, and you still feel squish. hmm
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Kurnis wrote:
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elbramso wrote:
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Kurnis wrote:
Does this build die a lot? 6k ehp seems low.

Kill or be killed xD

I switched to this build and came from an Hybrid Scourge Arrow Trickster (my league starter). I had ~23k Evasion + Acro + Phase Acro and arround 600k Shaper DPS (with charges / without flasks) - Now that I've switched to this build I feel squishy AF tbh...

Using those items:
Spoiler




Put arround 13ex into the build and yes, I feel squishy.



Yikes. you have really good gear, and you still feel squish. hmm


I guess it is all about what u want and where u came from. I played a charakter with good life leech mechanic - so it was weird to not have that leech + high evasion + dodge.
All in all the build is a glasscannon imo. But don't trust me, I played it like 3 hours or so^^
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elbramso wrote:
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Kurnis wrote:
Does this build die a lot? 6k ehp seems low.

Kill or be killed xD

I switched to this build and came from an Hybrid Scourge Arrow Trickster (my league starter). I had ~23k Evasion + Acro + Phase Acro and arround 600k Shaper DPS (with charges / without flasks) - Now that I've switched to this build I feel squishy AF tbh...

Using those items:
Spoiler




Put arround 13ex into the build and yes, I feel squishy.


Yeah pretty much lol. Also I’m trying hybrid TS trickster right now with soul tether and it’s basically invulnerable, so the switch to this has to be particularly jarring. When spending 15 seconds on a t16 boss instead of 0.5, I do end up really missing the damage though >< this build hits so damn hard I think I still prefer it
ign - Zilead
You don't explain why to use call 2 x brotherhoods even though this has been asked before? Why? The rings themselves provide no dps bonus except conversion. Does chaos conversion double dip or what?
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Varvarel wrote:
You don't explain why to use call 2 x brotherhoods even though this has been asked before? Why? The rings themselves provide no dps bonus except conversion. Does chaos conversion double dip or what?


Yes. So If you only did lightning damage then 50% ele at chaos would mean:

1.0x lightning damage
0.5x Chaos Damage

With full conversion, though:
1.0x Lightning Damage, 0.5x Chaos Damage
convert
0.8x Cold Damage, 0.4x Chaos Damage
convert
0.4 Fire Damage, 0.2 Chaos Damage

End result is you do 0.2 Lightning, 0.4 fire, 0.4 cold, and 1.1 chaos.
ign - Zilead
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Meive wrote:
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Nicol wrote:
So first off, I’d agree with you that full shaper items is unnecessary, but I think you need a pretty good reason to drop items and swapping an ~8 ex watchers for command of the pit, for example, won’t really be a budgetary improvement. Diadem might be more damage in the end but that’s losing pretty important hp/resists, in addition to making it extremely hard to get the storm burst enchant which is a unique multiplier for damage. Also, if you keep the helm and swap to hatred, the loss of zealotry makes bottled faith very sketchy as it’s a lot harder to place consecrated ground under the enemy (which is additive cc as well).

-You can simply put on Command of the Pit and profit.. no changes needed (not sure why you would lose a Watcher's Eye).
-Resists don't matter because you can just get some more on other slots.
- I think you misunderstood.. you can run Hatred AND Zealotry AND Wrath when you use Diadem.

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Nicol wrote:
On weapons, I’ve discussed sceptres with clan (and started out using them) and find whirling blades too appealing to not use it. Damage is high enough as is that I wanted to focus in more on mobility.
It is a prefference thing indeed, I personally don't even have a regular movemend skill, Flame Dash is just that good on it's own. But hey, if DPS is the goal, Void Scepter's are the best of the best.

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Nicol wrote:
You can swap the amulet and it might be more damage, but a big thing to note is that phys to lightning on amulet is a really good dps stat on it’s own with conversion and stacking abuse (keep in mind the elder amulet has to deal with the 5% ele as chaos right away ignoring other stats on the amulet). And shaped cotb should always be bis because they’re mandatory conversion anyway. Basically, when I’ve shaped all my other gear, the last piece is the amulet, and I’m comparing ignoring chaos resist, 5 ele as chaos, and whatever shaped dps stats I can get with elder, where phys as fire is the worst added as, non chaos as chaos is better but additive with all my other ele as chaos.. it gets pretty close. It probably looks a lot better when you switch several things around at once but I don’t think with my pob the elder amulet wins. I’d have to check when I get home though and will update accordingly if I’m wrong on this
I made a small mistake when changing Amulets in the POB, as I still had the Phys to Cold and Lightning on it (which Elder amu can't roll). non-chaos to chaos+ phys to fire loses out slightly to a shaped phys to cold and phys to lightning, so in that regard you are correct and I was wrong.

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Nicol wrote:
Oh and I don’t believe I had a third aura ticked on? Definitely shouldn’t, maybe all the different wraths I was leveling are appearing but there shouldn’t be any others.
You had Zealotry, Wrath (2 but disregard that) and hatred turned on. so obviously Hatred was not ment to be turned on, since you can only run 2 with your PoB.

Either way, with the amulet changes(using a shaped with double phys) the dps is even a bit higher as I posted in my PoB. Still stands that breaking up the All Shaper portion of Eternity shroud still gives a bunch more dps.
Which is good news for min-maxing people and people on a budget, and less good for Eternity Shroud as a whole since with that heavy of an investment it should be more worth imo..


Thanks for catching the hatred btw, updated the pob and added what I think are endgame points to the tree.
ign - Zilead
did you go for alira or kill all?
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johanjulmust wrote:
did you go for alira or kill all?


Alira, resists are pretty good when setting up gear. Maybe swap it for kill at some point
ign - Zilead

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