General Discussion - Will there be a new atlas every league now? - Forum

" Kellog wrote: Spoiler " sofocle10000 wrote: As long as I get the option to CHOOSE if I get to keep the same Atlas progression locked at least for completed unique maps, and a further solution regarding the map tab fiasco for Standard, I'll might still be playing. If not, there are better games to spend TIME and $ on... Heck, I might even start sinking $$$ again in Dota 2 MTX if the sad state of PoE at the moment continues to linger on... Sorry, disallowed, not enough RNG. Neah, TencentGGG need to make up their mind. Either make the passive skill tree a PITA just like the Atlas, or make the same rule apply to the Atlas if progression is still a "core" part of Standard. They won't get a pass if they don't get through their "thick skulls" that for actually PLAYING the game, players need to keep their progress on their goddamn persistence based league aka Standard. Slapping "fake RNG" is already too detrimental to most aspects in PoE, they must comprehend that adding it to a "core" part of the experience like an afterthought is the WRONG IDEA... PSS: Our almighty TencentGGG overlords are very scrupulous regarding criticizing their abilities to take proper decisions and consider everything "needlessly harsh and condescending"... Good to know "free speech" doesn't apply in any form or manner on the forums these days... Last edited by sofocle10000#6408 on Apr 4, 2019, 12:43:16 AM	Posted by sofocle10000#6408 on Apr 4, 2019, 12:42:30 AM Quote this Post
Im hopeful that we will see at least SOME sort of action on this based on their recent acknowledgment of the issue . Whether or not its satisfactory to our wishes is another matter altogether. But at least we have successfully gotten this squarely on their radar. (سಥ益ಥ)س (سಥ益ಥ)س (سಥ益ಥ)س (سಥ益ಥ)س (سಥ益ಥ)س (سಥ益ಥ)س (سಥ益ಥ)س	Posted by RitualMurder#3177 on Apr 4, 2019, 3:43:01 AM Quote this Post
i hope not! dunno who likes this idea to revamp all maps every league... waste of resource and time! Mercenaries master craft service Mercenaries My IGN TreeOfDead https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2037371 Vouch Mercenaries veiled crafting all service all crafts mods Mercenaries SC master craft service Mercenaries SC craft mod! Veiled crafting Service Settlers craft PM: TreeOfDead	Posted by TreeOfDead#4438 on Apr 4, 2019, 12:38:43 PM Quote this Post
The bean counters like it. Someone observed a correlation between changing the atlas and tab sales. So their conclusion was they should change the atlas more often. Kind of short sighted. The second order effects are unknown. How many people will simply quit over it? I'm betting less that the forum-rage would indicate.	Posted by Shagsbeard#3964 on Apr 4, 2019, 12:41:37 PM Quote this Post
" Shagsbeard wrote: Spoiler The bean counters like it. Someone observed a correlation between changing the atlas and tab sales. So their conclusion was they should change the atlas more often. Kind of short sighted. The second order effects are unknown. How many people will simply quit over it? I'm betting less that the forum-rage would indicate. I'm betting more, but those "raging" around the forums will definitely be more invested than your regular "F2P" player... Besides, there is a "right" way to "force" players to fork $$$ for "convenience", but the current Atlas shuffling, which has 0 sense, except financially to push map tab purchases, will hopefully not prove completely detrimental to PoE long time player retention... Regardless, PoE is bringing less "fun" with each step undertaken on this path, and it's up to TencentGGG to "git gud & up to snuff" and turn it around, hopefully with either 4.0/5.0... PSS: Our almighty TencentGGG overlords are very scrupulous regarding criticizing their abilities to take proper decisions and consider everything "needlessly harsh and condescending"... Good to know "free speech" doesn't apply in any form or manner on the forums these days...	Posted by sofocle10000#6408 on Apr 4, 2019, 1:45:22 PM Quote this Post
" Shagsbeard wrote: The bean counters like it. Someone observed a correlation between changing the atlas and tab sales. So their conclusion was they should change the atlas more often. Kind of short sighted. The second order effects are unknown. How many people will simply quit over it? I'm betting less that the forum-rage would indicate. ive easily dumped $700+ into this game wont be spending anything else if this is how they are going to run their shit now. (سಥ益ಥ)س (سಥ益ಥ)س (سಥ益ಥ)س (سಥ益ಥ)س (سಥ益ಥ)س (سಥ益ಥ)س (سಥ益ಥ)س	Posted by RitualMurder#3177 on Apr 4, 2019, 3:45:02 PM Quote this Post
" Shagsbeard wrote: The bean counters like it. Someone observed a correlation between changing the atlas and tab sales. That could just be the side effect. You could be right but I saw this more as a way of GGG re-using old content and making it seem "fresh" from a marketing standpoint. I think they have automated this map change process. New league and new Atlas. Which is fine if older maps could still act like current ones or if a map tab turns into a remove-only tab or many other suggestions I've seen. Change the vendor ratio in Standard to 1:1 of the same tier. Barring that, maybe give players a way to auto update maps without any vendoring (except for shaped and elder maps). Maybe that last suggestion should be opt-in.	Posted by jack_aubrey#0655 on Apr 4, 2019, 10:39:01 PM Quote this Post
" jack_aubrey wrote: " Shagsbeard wrote: The bean counters like it. Someone observed a correlation between changing the atlas and tab sales. That could just be the side effect. You could be right but I saw this more as a way of GGG re-using old content and making it seem "fresh" from a marketing standpoint. I think they have automated this map change process. New league and new Atlas. Which is fine if older maps could still act like current ones or if a map tab turns into a remove-only tab or many other suggestions I've seen. Change the vendor ratio in Standard to 1:1 of the same tier. Barring that, maybe give players a way to auto update maps without any vendoring (except for shaped and elder maps). Maybe that last suggestion should be opt-in. This is pretty accurate. Chris said as much in the last Baeclast: " 2-10-07 Chris Wilson: It's a full scramble. The goal here is diversity so you can't expect the same layout, the same maps in the same places. Obviously there's restrictions where the ones with crazy bosses have to go near the end, and ones with baby bosses have to go near the start, but the intention is replayability, because things are subtly different league to league, the pathing is different and so on. This is a thing we're trying to do, we've come up with tools for it now, where we think that we'll actually extend player retention in maps by having them be different, you're not subconsciously getting bored by them. It's maybe a boring game designer thing to do in the background, but we think it's been helping so far. We'll continue to do that. This also gives some perspective regarding their view of Permanent Leagues. Last edited by Kellog#5737 on Apr 5, 2019, 12:02:34 AM	Posted by Kellog#5737 on Apr 5, 2019, 12:01:12 AM Quote this Post
I sincerely hope there will not be a new atlas every league. The Courthouse trio boss always did too much damage as a T4 boss or w/e, but now they're a T12 boss, which is just soooooo much better. Quality control please.	Posted by urza1234#3575 on Apr 5, 2019, 4:22:44 AM Quote this Post
I wonder why this is so important for CW to force people to play maps. Lots of people would be very happy to play Delve instead of maps. This always will be boring to play maps for several years and the Atlas layout shuffling will not change that because there will still be the same maps!	Posted by Mark___75#6278 on Apr 5, 2019, 5:50:47 AM Quote this Post