Pure Breachstone exp. gain is broken must be nerfed!

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xX999Xx wrote:

Yes right, its fun must be nerfed. Its always the same shit with elitist jerks who want to sit in their ivory tower. People who dont normally push for 100 are doing it now because its not as absurd as in older leagues. Be happy that more people play actively and rerolling.

Typical no fun allowed whine thread. It will be nerfed soon. Was a great time.

Oh what a great advanture it is, to sit in an ho,level 100 w/o even attacking monsters just because you have 30 exalts. Thats what we define as fun now? How degrading...
Pure stones are broken and hurting what levelling means in this game. Its not a challenge to be 100 anymore.. its just chores.

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golan4840 wrote:

Didn't get to try a pure breach stone yet, but I agree with the premise of this post. I consider level 100 to be the ultimate achievement of this game and any technique people use that makes it extremely trivial should be nerfed.
That includes beachhead rotations and Delve flare farming.

The same god dam people are going to be level 100 regardless of outcome all you're doing is fucking up the other people who want to do that. There's no ultimate achievement in literally grinding the same map I did it with poorjoys and UGS that's it It's just TIME.

It isn't an ultimate thing it never was unless it was Havoc which was years ago.

good, I want to fuck over as many people who want to do that as possible. Maybe that way we could get a fraction of the Havoc days, when hitting level 100 meant something.
But I know it will never happen, trade league is doomed to forever be casual 100s all day.

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xX999Xx wrote:

Yes right, its fun must be nerfed.

this is a terrible approach to any game. you can argue that anything in a game should be allowed as long as its 'fun' to someone. which is a losing logical viewpoint.

fun is an abstract notion.

we all know that those 4-5 levels from 95-96 dont add much to a character already.

so lets see how a pure breachstone is ie interesting from game perspective besides gaining mad xp

the main path is exactly the same as regular breach path. rares and trash dont pose any danger whatsoever. sure there are a tons of drops, which are way generous but in general...map drops are devalued this league because theyre everywhere

bosses are a bit more challenging, sure. they are mostly hp sponges though as opposed to dealing more damage. only trouble Ive had so far was tul, and thats because winter orb decides to target totems instead of him and prolongs the fight a ton.

basically, these things are glorified breaches with t16 drops and insane xp. there is absolutely nothing new about these from any gameplay viewpoint asides from map drops and xp gains.

so is getting 3-5 times more xp than the most efficient xp method the only reason these are 'fun' to you ?

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so is getting 3-5 times more xp than the most efficient xp method the only reason these are 'fun' to you ?

didnt mrs_death say its about 30 m an hour? which is 1.5x the current exp rate of ssf flare delve farming (20m p/h). prob about the same for high t15-16 group mapping with all the bells and whistles at 20m exp an hr.
i dont know since ive nvr touched a pure breachstone just interested in the numbers.

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Fhark wrote:

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so is getting 3-5 times more xp than the most efficient xp method the only reason these are 'fun' to you ?

didnt mrs_death say its about 30 m an hour? which is 1.5x the current exp rate of ssf flare delve farming (20m p/h). prob about the same for high t15-16 group mapping with all the bells and whistles at 20m exp an hr.
i dont know since ive nvr touched a pure breachstone just interested in the numbers.

my memory isnt that good. we need to ask a lvl 99 pure stone farmer.
the number could be higher.

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Fhark wrote:

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so is getting 3-5 times more xp than the most efficient xp method the only reason these are 'fun' to you ?

didnt mrs_death say its about 30 m an hour? which is 1.5x the current exp rate of ssf flare delve farming (20m p/h). prob about the same for high t15-16 group mapping with all the bells and whistles at 20m exp an hr.
i dont know since ive nvr touched a pure breachstone just interested in the numbers.

ok, I will stand corrected on numbers. Im not interested in xp gain so I do not have real numbers.

I simply estimated vs beachhead.

I do think GGG does something about flare runs soon. pure stones might be league-specific thing.

we can say 1.5x the most efficient method, it does not change the point of my post. is something more interesting because xp rate is 1.5/2/3/whatever times higher than other methods while introducing absolutely nothing in terms of gameplay variation ?

if that is the case, can we logically conclude that <insert something disliked by the said player, maybe master missions or lab or whatever they dont like doing> gave the most efficient xp, it would be 'fun' for them ? I think so.

This whole thread is made by a hardcore HYPOCRITE, who used the same exact method to get to level 100 and now AFTER he "abused" something he KNEW was "broken", comes here and complains.

I've never ran a Breachstone except to kill Xoph for amulet btw. From a spectator point this thread is a joke and you should be ashamed for making it.

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luci713 wrote:

This whole thread is made by a hardcore HYPOCRITE, who used the same exact method to get to level 100 and now AFTER he "abused" something he KNEW was "broken", comes here and complains.

I've never ran a Breachstone except to kill Xoph for amulet btw. From a spectator point this thread is a joke and you should be ashamed for making it.

I think that you completely missed the point of the thread to be honest.

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Fruz wrote:

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luci713 wrote:

This whole thread is made by a hardcore HYPOCRITE, who used the same exact method to get to level 100 and now AFTER he "abused" something he KNEW was "broken", comes here and complains.

I've never ran a Breachstone except to kill Xoph for amulet btw. From a spectator point this thread is a joke and you should be ashamed for making it.

I think that you completely missed the point of the thread to be honest.

Not really, I could care less if it takes 1 day or 1 year to get to level 100, content is what matters. What I find amusing is the person who made this thread, after he abused the shit out of this method to reach level 100.

Since we can watch hc players using them on twitch means it will def get nerfed next league.