Don't nerf Syndicate encounters

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Johny_Snow wrote:
So if you are not committed enough to give a damn why are you complaining about content kicking your ass? It makes no sense whatsoever, if you want to be a filthy lazy casual stay this way and accept the drawbacks.


You prove my point by doing exactly what I said you would. Further, you attach that to me personally rather than recognizing that there are players that hold that attitude, which was the point. Nice fail, dude.
Tired of trolls? Ignore them.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1473168
Ok, you called yourself a sheep, I can live with that.
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Albinosaurus wrote:
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Johny_Snow wrote:
So if you are not committed enough to give a damn why are you complaining about content kicking your ass? It makes no sense whatsoever, if you want to be a filthy lazy casual stay this way and accept the drawbacks.


You prove my point by doing exactly what I said you would. Further, you attach that to me personally rather than recognizing that there are players that hold that attitude, which was the point. Nice fail, dude.


So.........what now? You are a casual who cant be bothered to learn how to deal with challenges. Ok?
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grogzor wrote:
a paralyzed monkey has enough mechanical skill to play this game. so unless you are an epileptic or in danger of getting a seizure after looking at all the different effects on the screen or unless you have the average reaction times of a 60 year old, chances are you can grind and farm this game just as much as anybody else.

the problem with you whiteknights is that you arent being honest.

This quote is so ironic lol!
like wtf?!

There is no mechanical skill at all, yet .... here we are ?
And you think you are being honest ?
/rofl

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Johny_Snow wrote:
So.........what now? You are a casual who cant be bothered to learn how to deal with challenges. Ok

Seems like it.
But is still here to QQ QQ QQ, call anything that he can't argue against trolling or ignoring it.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Dec 19, 2018, 8:08:28 AM
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Johny_Snow wrote:

So lets quote you here

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a paralyzed monkey has enough mechanical skill to play this game


So there you go, all the people who complained about hard betrayal content are worse than this quote. Have fun.

again, these omeganerds talking about being skilled.

bra, I have a newsflash for you: you are skilled at farming and grinding this game. congratulations to you.

others arent as skilled at this grindfest because they havent been playing this game for years and because they dont grindfarm 10+ hours daily.

I have a super duper secret for you: if you grind a game (ESPECIALLY an action rpg) for billions of hours, then obviously it will become boring and easy for you.

I suggest the following: stop using anything higher than 4 link. if that doesnt help, stop playing dang meta top tier build every season or stop playing the roflstomp build that you play every season and try some tier 5 trash build.
Last edited by grogzor#1584 on Dec 19, 2018, 8:08:24 AM
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Fruz wrote:

like wtf?!

There is no mechanical skill at all, yet .... here we are ?
And you think you are being honest ?
/rofl

well, are you honest? you have been playing this game for years, right? you play this game much more than the average casual (=multiple hours daily), right?

so what do you expect? you expect an action rpg where you farm ai minions to be challenging? my god.

and of course this game has zero mechanical skill requirements. if you think it does, then I just dont know what to tell you. poe requires a lot of knowledge about the ingame mechanics and how things relate to each other. I was talking about the mechanics as in contorlling mouse/keyboard/apm. a paralyzed monkey can handle poe mechanically in that sense.
so stop talking about your "skill" when talking about an insane grindfiesta like poe.
Last edited by grogzor#1584 on Dec 19, 2018, 8:13:42 AM
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grogzor wrote:

bra, I have a newsflash for you: you are skilled at farming and grinding this game. congratulations to you

ROFL.

Just in case you would not be aware, or just can't admit it :
Good players were dealing with the syndicate while racing, with limited gear, and not necessarily with meta builds.

And this is very obvious, unless you are using blinders.
Typical .... trying to find such pathetic strawman rather than admitting than some people out there are just better than you.
*sigh*
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Dec 19, 2018, 8:14:57 AM
yeah I give up. we are playing a grindfesty action rpg here where you farm enemy ai minions all day and people act as if this was competitive starcraft or chess. my god, the delusion is so real.

obviously people are gonna be good and bad. some people cant even handle a mouse. some people have been playing this game since years and know exactly how to grind in an optimal way, what build works at what time in the game and how to maximize their time invested.

however: let's say you give me your uber hardcore pro hero with all the equipment it has. give me like half an hour to adapt and understand the basic mechanics and I will be able to achieve whatever you are achieving in the game.

now the reverse: give a "pro" player some trash build with zero functioning synergies, 2000 hp and no resistances and tell him to go clear any content at all. the "pro" can't do much about it.

how hard is this to understand? this is a grind game and you need the character numbers to back it up. you dont need much of an imagined "skill" to beat stuff in this game, you need numbers on your equipment. which means grinded material.
Last edited by grogzor#1584 on Dec 19, 2018, 8:20:37 AM
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Volband wrote:
We just corrected your statement.

As for being bad or good: GGG will decide what kind of game they want to make, and how they want to make it. Difficulty and complexity are not necessarily synonymous, and both can be achieved through various methods. The majority of players did not like difficulty being tied to random one-shots and barely telegraphed nukes, and as of now, they seem to agree. The game itself is still complex and still very alienating for a new player, so I wouldn't worry about "overcasualization".

Whether the overtunement of the syndicate was intended or not, just because they backed out from it, it doesn't necessarily mean they do not want to implement harder content in the future. This may be a very valuable feedback to them, that this is generally not a pleasing nor engaging way to introduce difficulty. A fun boss fight or über lab for example are much better and graduate challenges, where one can truly feel accomplished once they did it. Just compare your feelings when you completed über lab for the first few times in a nail-biter, to finally killing a random syndicate encounter before you get one-shotted. Night and day.

Sure, for the best of the best, it is very hard to introduce new challenges. Some people have become so good and efficient in the game, that you can't catch them off-guard. I suppose that's part of the reason why GGG introduced private leagues, as players who truly want to test their knowledge and skill can impose as many handicaps on themselves as they see fit, without ruining the experience of the masses. I'm absolutely not against introducing harder end game content for some über rewards, but we all know that it will just make the mighty mightier. At best they will struggle with it a few days, then create some extremely optimalized builds, and will farm über über elder, then the über über über elder, and so on. It's not an envious position to be in.

But like it or not, the elite needs the "sheep", and even the best PoE players should accept this. No one wins by antagonizing eachother in matters like this. People need to accept that not everyone's fun revolves around putting you up to the test at every single corner, and the other side needs to accept that the veterans yearn for something unexpected and challenging, that will keep each season fun for at least a month.


Can I get an Amen?
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grogzor wrote:
yeah I give up. we are playing a grindfesty action rpg here where you farm enemy ai minions all day and people act as if this was competitive starcraft or chess. my god, the delusion is so real.

Beating another strawman, AGAIN.
Nobody here said that PoE was a very compliated game mechanically.
like wtf.


There is so much wrong in what you said again, it's mind bowing how you seem to think you know the game .... yet don't.

SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.

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