[3.5] Occultist Cold DoT Caster (Cold Snap + Vortex) WIP

playing similar build. with 11k es it's unkillable, but it's ok to do shaper in 8 min???? seems damage is a bit low?
or its only my issue. also guardians is ezpz, but to slow(
all guardians can be done deathless, but takes minutes to complete. not possible to kill in 1-10 sec(
Last edited by RawDamage on Dec 27, 2018, 6:54:28 PM
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RawDamage wrote:
playing similar build. with 11k es it's unkillable, but it's ok to do shaper in 8 min???? seems damage is a bit low?
or its only my issue. also guardians is ezpz, but to slow(
all guardians can be done deathless, but takes minutes to complete. not possible to kill in 1-10 sec(


If you want more damage, low life is the way to go. I posted my latest update in a different thread, you can find it here
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RawDamage wrote:
playing similar build. with 11k es it's unkillable, but it's ok to do shaper in 8 min???? seems damage is a bit low?
or its only my issue. also guardians is ezpz, but to slow(
all guardians can be done deathless, but takes minutes to complete. not possible to kill in 1-10 sec(

Well you have Vortex in 5link and Cold Snap in 4link. What did you expect?) And also both your Vortex and CS are lvl 19.
Loving the build, tanky while having good damage - just what I was looking for :)

Question - why don't you use Bonechill in your Cold Snap? It gives a massive buff to Vortex, something like 35% more according to PoB, and also buffs CS damage itself.
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matevoz wrote:
Loving the build, tanky while having good damage - just what I was looking for :)

Question - why don't you use Bonechill in your Cold Snap? It gives a massive buff to Vortex, something like 35% more according to PoB, and also buffs CS damage itself.

I use it in Vortex. According to tooltip my Vortex has 122% chill effect, which gives us 54% MORE cold DoT from bonechill (32 base and 22 from chill effect) which means that Bonechill is actually the best support gem to use as it gives the same damage multi as Conc effect does, without the downside.
I really wanna use CJ with this - would it be better to go hybrid, or just drop CJ all together?
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H3avyM3tal wrote:
I really wanna use CJ with this - would it be better to go hybrid, or just drop CJ all together?

What's CJ?
Carcass Jack, sorry.
Hmm dont "Elemental Focus Support" remove Vortex ability to chill and freeze? - and by that we loose ton of CC and dps?


Cheers
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Islandsbrygge wrote:
Hmm dont "Elemental Focus Support" remove Vortex ability to chill and freeze? - and by that we loose ton of CC and dps?


Cheers

I think I've answered this question about a hundred times. Ele focus removes ability to chill and freeze from initial hit, but we do not scale 'hit' part of the spell so it wont chill or freeze anything with decent amount of HP anyway. Chilled area which both Vortex and Cold Snap leave on the ground has base 10% effect of Chill, which is then scaled by some passives and in case of Vortex - Bonechill support gem to 22.2% (in my case at least) slow. Chill effect is capped at 30, but there is no point in trying to get it there. Chilled area DOES NOT care about Ele focus, it will chill anyway, always. It is the same thing as with Icestorm from Whispering Ice, when ppl convert 100% of its damage to fire, chilled ground which it creates still chills.

TL;DR
Chilled ground always chills, even with Ele focus. Initial hit is too weak to freeze and chill anyway.

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