Energy shield is useless!

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nadakuu wrote:

You can't treat es like life, because es has several inherent problems you have to address.
1) you have little to no other defense
2) you have no access to healing potions.
3) you have to be mindful of stun immunity or use an item reducing overall es potential.
4) you have to stay to the upper half of the tree.

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sidtherat wrote:

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nadakuu wrote:

You can't treat es like life, because es has several inherent problems you have to address.
1) you have little to no other defense
2) you have no access to healing potions.
3) you have to be mindful of stun immunity or use an item reducing overall es potential.
4) you have to stay to the upper half of the tree.

1) players choice to skip everything else.
2) big deal.. really?
3) whooops! ES has to care about something? unplayable! one item or enchant or stun duration reduction somewhere or passives or pantheon. stun in 2018 is.. really?
4) and thats it?

where are the inherent problems you wanted to talk?

again: ES builds (like CI/lowlife) fit some NOT ALL builds. deal with it. right now there is a CHOICE - some builds favour life, some ES. it is actual diversity. previously - diversity got reduced to 'pick one high ES chest and helmet or shield and you can stick no-ES uniques there and there and youll be fine with 8k ES, easy'. how many non-ES uniques most ES builds could use pre-nerf? 3? 4? 5? not to mention that most broken item of breach patch was.. that obscene Chayhula amulet that was an ES player' wet dream

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ShinigamiKller wrote:

After a year i came back to play and i realised the energy shield nerf wasnt only 4 node on the tree and had more impact on the game what i thought 1st.

A simple question. GGG are you forgot how much you nerfed on energy shield?

Pls lets look your new uniques, what is this fenumus set?

ES: 76+390+192+52=710 from 4...yes 4 ITEMS. 710*1,2(quality)=852 + the whole set give you 50 life and ~650 evasion. How you would make from this a build, which isnt glasscannon? If i wanna use a dual wand or staff then i have no shield - ES and life. Then i have 3 items which could give some ES and/or life. Which im sure isnt enough. How was it calculated?

ES were always well balanced. No armor, no evasion, no acrobatics keystone bec es lose (maybe some build did it), no potion which regen es, in an ES item you need 2 perfect stat to reach better ES for life builds you only need the good life roll (higher risk/invest higher return simple (for somebody)) and who care those rare items which help you to reach 25k ES? In my most builds i used unique items. Never had 10k+ ES. After the nerf you not only nerfed the rare items, but some unique too which had low ES before too. Why? Before 3.0 when somebody used 25k energy shield build (most builds were max 15K) i saw not only good hybrid ES/life and life builds, but now how much good ES build you see?

With these nonsense changes you destroyed the build diversity/fun. You made alot of uniqes garbage and added more garbage which isnt able to implement any kind of build without the glasscannon (emphasis on the glass) feeling.

So after ~ 2 weeks of PoE i leave it again... Thx the nothing!

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Umbryl wrote:

Es is totally useless. Better go without ghost reaver that is more useless than ES. Even with top gear every pack of mobs can kill you. Long boss fight can kill you if you can’t find a save spot where you take no damage. Moreover... most ES build are for spellcaster. We might think “well, mages are the weakest class, but the strongest in dps”. This is another bull***, because any spell will not reach 12 millions + dps like many physical build.

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North2 wrote:

I'd say the biggest problem is that the "ES pool" is still very easily comparable to "life pool". Back when ES could go ridiculously high, it meant ES builds could survive all the one-shots and that's all that mattered. "ES pool" and "life pool" were one and the same, and the highest value is all that mattered.

Now that ES values are closer to life values, nothing really changed other than that life is generally better overall. There is no significant upside to playing ES, and the only builds that uses ES are the ones that are forced into it like LL and Whispering Ice.

Just think about it for a second. The only differentiating factor between ES and life is that ES recharges if you don't take damage for some period of time...but that part doesn't matter at all right now. If the only differentiating aspect doesn't matter, then one side is just going to be flat out better than the other. We really need to build on this differentiating factor so that Life and ES becomes incomparables.