Not enjoying the quest for the Uber Elder

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Anonymous1749704 wrote:

When you clear Elder influence, run t16 guardian maps until a new one spawns. This may help.

When an Elder influence spawns, if the spawn point is anywhere below t13-14 maps, spread the influence up to a t15 map, then clear all but five maps from Elder influence, leaving only a t15 map and four maps closest to it influenced. After this spread the influence again until Elder spawns. There was a theory that Elder spawns near the maps that are first influenced, and based on my personal anecdotal evidence it has at least some level of credibility (to me). You may be able to game the system by making a fake early influence near a t15 map the way I described.

^ Both of these are untested and unproven, but if you're tired of complete RNG, why not give 'em a shot?

One of my attempts spawned the initial Elder influence in the SW red maps, near Lava Lake. I spread it to the NW quadrant following the 3x T15 strategy. Yet the Elder spawned in T13 or T14 there (in the NW maps), i.e. not near the initial location.

However, when I finally got him, it just so happened that I took Reef the last. I had 18 Elder maps before that, took Reef as 19th, a random Elder advance took another map somewhere in T9-10, and the Elder spawned in the Reef. Probably a coincidence too.

Anyway, I got it after 287 hours in the league, most of which was spent trying to spawn a T15 Elder. This is absolutely fucktarded. I will not be going through this again. Considering just skipping 3.3 altogether because I expect it to be a minor release with nothing new and mostly polishing the Pokemon content (of course it's going to be a part of the game from now on) with some skill rebalance/nerfs. They will probably adjust the chances a little more, but it's going to take another league and more people complaining before they scrap this stupid RNG gating.

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Kelvynn wrote:

Anyway, I got it after 287 hours in the league, most of which was spent trying to spawn a T15 Elder. This is absolutely fucktarded. I will not be going through this again. Considering just skipping 3.3 altogether because I expect it to be a minor release with nothing new and mostly polishing the Pokemon content (of course it's going to be a part of the game from now on) with some skill rebalance/nerfs. They will probably adjust the chances a little more, but it's going to take another league and more people complaining before they scrap this stupid RNG gating.

Hey, glad you took my suggestion after all. Good for you.

I have the same feeling that getting the last elder orb felt like a chore vs rewarding.

Yeah, to me it's so obviously bad that I won't bother with it unless it happens by chance. Feel for everybody that has been going for the orb and gotten super bad RNG. Maybe to somebody it felt like a nice reward afterwards, but I think it's too much and too random.

Can't care, because then it would piss me off. Though not caring is bad also, because it makes me just not engage in a part of the game.

Screw whoever decided to have ELDER Spawn randomly AND have it required for the final quest, its abysmal design.


To fix this all that is needed is one simple fix:

"If Zana's Quest State is X, and there is a Tier-X map within Elder's influence when he is supposed to spawn, spawn elder on Tier-X map."

So if you need Elder to spawn on a T14 map for Zana's Quest, and you have a T14 map within your elder influence, he will SPAWN AT THE T-14 MAP!!!

How Hard is that?


I've spawned Red Elder 4 times and he's spawned at T13 T12 T13 T13... this is bull****, it takes at least 2 hours and 30 maps just to spawn him. Then do it all over again because he didn't spawn on the right tier to progress. As a player, I expect, if I perform the prerequisite for a quest, the quest will complete. Not "after 2 hours, lets roll a D10 and see if it lands on a 10".

This damn elder mechanic is burning me out of the whole game ive been enjoying for many years! Spreading this damn thing to have it disappear on the other side, and farming maps i dont want to play to get that damn elder to spawn in a map i wont get the last fragment... TOO MUCH DAMN RNG

since day one, the mechanics and random outcome force me to play the game. it's godawful, i tell ya!!!11
to make matters worse, i have the suspicion that ggg wants me to grind!!!

look at streamers, they only play half an hour per day and ggg grants them 6 links and elder rings for free!! it's not fair, mummy!!11

I`m reading this just out of curiocity and catching my on thought: "these guys probably came too deep into kind of stockholm syndrome". This is weird to see from the side you know, tho not fun for inside. I keeping position what I`m not doing things I don`t like, this is the game, if its not entertaining and do opposite - its just failing on its purpose. I`m not gaming to suffer and feel irritation, you know..

Just a look about.
Why I`m sayn this..
May be better to make a poll and gather votes and reach out to the devs directly to fix things?

And yes, I really dont like too much RNG in this game.
In so called crafting (chancing), in atlas, in maps drop, encounters..
So I just dont do what I dont like.

Tho with each patch those things growing more and more in numbers..

Same story here....

can't manage to get the elder on a t15 map.

GGG this Design of a Quest is realy poor and needs to be changed...I've been playing about 600 hours this league and couldn't manage to ged the last orb because of RNG...

PLZ Fix this...

ups :)