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Kelvynn wrote:
Can somebody clarify please: does Brutal Fervor work with Ghost Reaver + CI? "Life Leech effects are not removed at Full Life" - but what if you are CI and leeching ES? Does the ES leech continue once you reach full ES (and CI is always Full Life too)? Since VP works with GR just fine, it would make sense if the ES leech continued. But need a definite answer.
There is a clarification from Mark_GGG in one of the bug threads:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1605910/page/5#p14186710
But this only makes it more confusing. Yes, leech effects are normally removed when their resource is full. Yes, Brutal Fervor and Endless Hunger explicitly say 'full life'. So then, since I'm CI and always at Full Life, leech effects shouldn't be removed. Mark didn't say anything about CI either.
Does anybody know for sure?
Does not work with Energy Shield
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Brutal_Fervour
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Posted byAtech2#6739on Feb 28, 2018, 9:17:25 AM
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Kelvynn wrote:
Can somebody clarify please: does Brutal Fervor work with Ghost Reaver + CI? "Life Leech effects are not removed at Full Life" - but what if you are CI and leeching ES? Does the ES leech continue once you reach full ES (and CI is always Full Life too)? Since VP works with GR just fine, it would make sense if the ES leech continued. But need a definite answer.
There is a clarification from Mark_GGG in one of the bug threads:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1605910/page/5#p14186710
But this only makes it more confusing. Yes, leech effects are normally removed when their resource is full. Yes, Brutal Fervor and Endless Hunger explicitly say 'full life'. So then, since I'm CI and always at Full Life, leech effects shouldn't be removed. Mark didn't say anything about CI either.
Does anybody know for sure?
Does not work with Energy Shield
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Brutal_Fervour
No, that's based entirely on Mark's comment that didn't mention CI. Just like I explained above. The wiki doesn't have any other source of information. Brutal Fervor doesn't work with non-CI GR. But according to Mark's logic it really should work with CI.
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Posted byKelvynn#6607on Feb 28, 2018, 2:14:09 PM
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Kelvynn wrote:
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Kelvynn wrote:
Can somebody clarify please: does Brutal Fervor work with Ghost Reaver + CI? "Life Leech effects are not removed at Full Life" - but what if you are CI and leeching ES? Does the ES leech continue once you reach full ES (and CI is always Full Life too)? Since VP works with GR just fine, it would make sense if the ES leech continued. But need a definite answer.
There is a clarification from Mark_GGG in one of the bug threads:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1605910/page/5#p14186710
But this only makes it more confusing. Yes, leech effects are normally removed when their resource is full. Yes, Brutal Fervor and Endless Hunger explicitly say 'full life'. So then, since I'm CI and always at Full Life, leech effects shouldn't be removed. Mark didn't say anything about CI either.
Does anybody know for sure?
Does not work with Energy Shield
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Brutal_Fervour
No, that's based entirely on Mark's comment that didn't mention CI. Just like I explained above. The wiki doesn't have any other source of information. Brutal Fervor doesn't work with non-CI GR. But according to Mark's logic it really should work with CI.
I don't understand why you think it should work with CI.
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Posted byAtech2#6739on Feb 28, 2018, 2:36:11 PM
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Kelvynn wrote:
No, that's based entirely on Mark's comment that didn't mention CI. Just like I explained above. The wiki doesn't have any other source of information. Brutal Fervor doesn't work with non-CI GR. But according to Mark's logic it really should work with CI.
"It does not say anything about them being removed at full ES, so does not affect that." -> they still end at full ES. :/ It's not rocket science.
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Posted byVipermagi#0984on Feb 28, 2018, 2:39:03 PMValued Poster
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I don't understand why you think it should work with CI.
Because: "Life Leech effects are not removed at Full Life" and CI = Full Life.
They are the same Life Leech effects, with or without GR. Them working with VP is a proof of that.
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Posted byKelvynn#6607on Feb 28, 2018, 3:40:05 PM
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Kelvynn wrote:
No, that's based entirely on Mark's comment that didn't mention CI. Just like I explained above. The wiki doesn't have any other source of information. Brutal Fervor doesn't work with non-CI GR. But according to Mark's logic it really should work with CI.
"It does not say anything about them being removed at full ES, so does not affect that." -> they still end at full ES. :/ It's not rocket science.
Mark was talking about Endless Hunger, not Brutal Fervor. Yes, NORMALLY the leech effects are removed when their resource is full. But Brutal Fervor overrides that behavior when at Full Life. CI = Full Life.
Do you see what I mean?
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Posted byKelvynn#6607on Feb 28, 2018, 3:42:14 PM
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Mark was talking about Endless Hunger, not Brutal Fervor.
No shit, because at the time of writing, the Leech Effect modifier was on Endless Hunger - not on Brutal Fervour >.>" It's still the same fucking modifier, it still works the same, it's just on a different node now. Why is this a discussion, again.
So no, I do not see what you mean, you're making no sense. ES Leech already doesn't end at Full Life, Endless Hunger does not affect that behaviour. It also doesn't magically make ES Leech persist through Full ES either, because it doesn't affect ES Leech.
CI doesn't change anything about this situation. Full Life is Full Life, whether that is 1, or 15k.
Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Feb 28, 2018, 5:54:00 PM
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Posted byVipermagi#0984on Feb 28, 2018, 5:52:22 PMValued Poster
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Wow, you don't have to be such an ***hole, but thanks for the answer anyway.
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Posted byKelvynn#6607on Feb 28, 2018, 5:57:57 PM
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