youve trashed the game

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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allbusiness wrote:

If it were up to you, you'd have a game where it took 10 years to get a Disfavour.


No thanks.

if theres no limit to the amount of power creep someone would welcome then their opinion on games is absolutely worthless. If you want to put yourself in that category then go for it mate, dont expect anyone with sense to care about anything you have to say if you do though.

Leave then nobody will shed a tear hell a replacement will take your place and he or she is likely won't go OMFG THE GAME ISN;T GHARDDDD ANYMORE HALP LET ME WHINE ON THE FORUM.

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Char1983 wrote:

Honestly, I don't quite get where they are going with this either. I have yet to understand all the mechanics around the shaped items, but some already seem pretty damn broken and some seem to render even mirror-tier rares from 3.0 useless.

put it this way, when they upped the range of damage mods in I believe 2.0 an example of a given weapon category is that the previous basically perfect item had 573 pdps, and the new mods resulted in a new perfect item with 607 pdps. A 35 pdps increase.

These new changes are the equiv of them adding weapons with over 1800 pdps. A 1200+ pdps increase.

Just to put it in perspective for what we are looking at here simply in damage terms.

We've probably just been here too long, Snorkle, it's only natural that any amount of patience for questionable design decision and straight-out fuckups runs out at some point. It kinda gets to you, they add a bunch of new stuff in the new league and you don't really feel like using any of it.

Dunno, if I left PoE now it would be as a very happy customer, it was a long time and I didn't have to pay much to enjoy it fully, but as a genre enthusiast my feelings would be mixed.

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

or people who actually care about playing a balanced game. Did you find it fun back in the day putting on god mode and giving yourself all the guns and ammo in doom 2? I bet you were one of those guys right? I did that too, /godmode /giveall, yeah its fun, for like a day and then its just ruined the game because its stupid so you stop playing it.

Id venture to say majority of people playing the game right now prolly weren't even born when Doom 2 came out

it just boggles my mind raics that they can post path of nerfs and talk about how they are limiting things because they are unhealthy, were not afraid of nerfing stuff thats too powerful, lets take 500 evasion off queen of the forest...

oh btw heres a 10 link item that has 4x 30% more damage support potential than ur 6L chest and heres an offhand that gives you 4 free damage auras, each of which is kind of like a support like added fire, lets call it 3 and just say u got a 13 link now, 500 evasion off QotF because that 500 ev was game breaking (a change I agreed with) and heres the new league enjoy your 13 link skills....

In my head its like take any outrageous thing, I complained about reach of the council with 4 free arrows, I said that was a bit much that ud prob need a 500 pdps rare to even compete with it. but a rare could have competed, 500 pdps bows existed, in power creep its availability, but its within certain bounds. This is essentially btw we now added 2500 pdps bows, this is that level of absurd, its like take some random idiot on the forum with the most outrageously stupid ideas for new uniques that are so stupidly powerful everyone laughs, multiply one of those by 3 and thats what theyve actually just done.



every balance concern anyone has ever had, whatever it was they were concerned was overpowered, multiply that by about 10 and you dont even touch this. Theres no equivalence, Ive never seen an equivalence in any game ever, Ive never even seen a user mod for a game that is as stupid as what Im looking at here. Its not like theyve just gone a step too far, many times theyve gone a step too far and later taken a step back, maybe multiple steps too far and now theyre 5 steps too far. Weve just gone like a mile in 1 go, some irreparably stupid decision that is truly unfathomable, its so far gone now we cant even see any point weve been at before. Any conversation ever had about balance in this forum is now meaningless, any piece of previous power creep, any item or gem in any state its ever been in, its all like a grain of sand against the beach of stupidity they have unleashed in this update. Were arguing about 5% damage here, this items 10% too stong, this skill is about 10% too strong... BANG, 500% more damage, GO!!!!!!!!

what the actual fuck? Shall we have a covnersation now about the balance of phys attackers vs flat ele attackers vs concersation ele attacke.... no, no theres no point talking about anything at all in regards to this game, there is no balance, there is no meanining, theres no point even thinking about this game in terms of how anything should or shouldnt be. Just release an item with 15k base armour, release a chest with 3k flat life, release a 1h crit dagger with 15% crit chance and 1k pdps, it doesnt matter, that sort of shit is now just lost in the soup of stupidity across the board. What yesterday would have been a joke idea because its obviously stupidly op today is irrelevant ultimately, its like playing wheres wally looking for 1 bad clown in a carnival of idiocy.

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I_NO wrote:

I'll be brief here but stop whining dude.

Straight up it's amazing I don't give a fuck about power creep all I desire is to feel powerful how I've always been an ARPG.

That's the entire point.

Problem is: if GGG not balanced content around this shit items - shit items will be very powerfull. But if GGG make game balance around this shit items... well, I don't want to play forever to obtain some of this shit item to be viable.

So only one thing I can tell when I saw this shit: 'THAT THE FUCK IS THIS?!'

Who tested this? Who is this '1000 hours experts'? Children with inferiority complex?

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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allbusiness wrote:

If it were up to you, you'd have a game where it took 10 years to get a Disfavour.


No thanks.

if theres no limit to the amount of power creep someone would welcome then their opinion on games is absolutely worthless. If you want to put yourself in that category then go for it mate, dont expect anyone with sense to care about anything you have to say if you do though.

"With any sense"


They have massively nerfed many things across the board for two leagues in a row, and the shit was about to be absolutely anti-fun for literally a 2nd league in a row with a super boring meta.



DotA 2 has plenty of power creep since the inception of IceFrog's DotA and yet the game is still fine. Same with League of Legends. Stop talking like power creep is a bad thing.

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_Saranghaeyo_ wrote:

I'm inclined to agree about the gearing to be honest. To be fair I enjoy empowering my characters, but not to the point where it's Diablo III-esque, which is what an 8+ Link setup honestly feels like.

How many characters are gonna get a 8+ link with tier 1 rolls and the right gem setup? Come on dude.

this is the best league ever b/c it's fun and most important b/c of the OP items

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allbusiness wrote:

DotA 2 has plenty of power creep since the inception of IceFrog's DotA and yet the game is still fine.

dota is a pvp game. power creep isnt as obvious nor is the player you're playing against static. and, DoTa is balanced really, really well.

how much of dota's content is rendered obsolete by the power creep ?

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Stop talking like power creep is a bad thing.

of course it's a bad thing. power creep renders past content obsolete. instead of making different content and having DIFFERENT horizontal content, new content is strictly more powerful than the previous iteration to the point where the older the content is, the more obsolete and uninteresting it is. its about as interesting as playing and constantly beating a 3 year old in chess.

this is one of the reasons Ive always liked vanilla D2 much more than LoD.