About QoTF nerfs...

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GGG wrote:
Queen of the Forest
Now has 200 to 240% increased Evasion Rating (down from 240 to 380%). The movement speed bonus this item can provide has been capped at 100% for all versions.

Changes to evasion basetypes in The Fall of Oriath both pushed the evasion rating of this item too high, and took the movement speed this item granted to an extreme. We never intended for a single item to be able to provide so much movement speed. Over time as more movement speed and evasion became available this item has become unreasonable. The movement speed players were attaining was not something that the game was designed to handle. This cap is unlikely to affect average use of this item.

This body armour on it's own, even with high Evasion on every piece of gear, Grace, Evasion on the Tree was pretty ok. It wasn't overpowered. You needed to add 2 non-damage non-unique Flaks with flask effectiveness to make it work on top of that. "Single item" my ass.

QoTF characters had less life, less damage nodes, restricted gear choices and other sacrificies to make. It was huge investment and it was specialisation kind of thing - you would build around movement speed lacking in other parts. It wasn't "hurr durr, equip body armour become the Flash" thing like GGG tries to say, you need to combine all the pieces together.

Now with Vaal Pact gone, this playstyle would already be non-existent, because it was Vaal Pact that was keeping this characters alive, but GGG went extra mile and killed the item for good. You are not gonna play Pathfinder with this anymore, but Slayer, so even less movement speed.

And this 100% movement speed increase cap is just ridiculous. One flask gives more movement speed...

Rip Road Runner.
Last edited by SunL4D2#6224 on Dec 5, 2017, 7:46:23 AM
Last bumped on Dec 6, 2017, 4:11:28 PM
You will still get a lot of movement speed 100% is pretty good i'd say. You won't be an F1 car that's for sure. It was simply way too retarded when you compared QotF stacking evasion and other ways of movement.
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I never used the QotF to get insane speed, but with the bonus capped at 100%, why also nerf EVA, which was not that high (could get higher amounts on a rare).
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Oh no, it has a cap of A HUNDRED! And a bit less evasion. Only means that the item is more "normalized" than "nerfed". And if you read the manifesto; the game isn't built for that kind of speed. Animations and AI makes speed like that idiotic.

Maybe to "cheesed" it to its limits, and that's why you're complaining. Maybe you didn't, and have no idea why they nerfed it.
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CaptainWARLORD wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVy05TBjP8

I think you are the one who has no idea. This is just 1 example.


H o l y s h * *, i actually had no idea just how fast it was.

Okay i was indifferent about QOTF nerf but after seeing this i'm fully on board :D:D. This is broken as hell.
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nskLantash wrote:

H o l y s h * *, i actually had no idea just how fast it was.

Okay i was indifferent about QOTF nerf but after seeing this i'm fully on board :D:D. This is broken as hell.


Yeah. A lot of players scream "out with GGG, in with a cow" just as soon as the word "nerf" is being mentioned. They see the word "cap" on QoTF and read "end of the world" - without EVER being close to reaching that cap in the first place.

Yes, it will be a little bit harder to reach the cap with the nerf to evasion on it, but hell... It literally gave you A LOT of movement speed for free in 8/10 evasion builds.
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CaptainWARLORD wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXVy05TBjP8

I think you are the one who has no idea. This is just 1 example.


The moment this game is gonna get balanced around people with 2k life and no resist is the moment this game dies.

Not saying the nerf was unjustified, just that this video is a really bad example.
Those 2 Minute uber lab runs were ridiculous. You need to agree this was way too over powered.
pathfinder was mainly the problem. They should nerf Pathfinders instead.
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