Prizes should be different for hardcore and softcore, why would i play hardcore?
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When there were more/different rewards for HC/SC in leagues and events people didn't like that they felt pressured to do both to try and get all the rewards, which is why that stopped happening (also it just takes more dev time).
Maybe you should play HC for the sole reason you want to. If prizes are your motivating factor don't play it. Last edited by j33bus#3399 on Nov 27, 2017, 2:57:06 PM
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" Is that really a bad thing? Some of those players complain nowadays that they got nothing to do in a league after like two weeks. " This is the main reason I guess. |
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" ^^This. And personally, I don't want to go back to having different rewards for HC/SC; nor HC having a different league mechanic than SC, which is how things were when the HC/SC rewards were different. People without time or desire for both, had to choose what to miss out on. Other times, people wanted the league mechanic of the SC league in HC or vice-versa, but didn't want to jump from HC to SC, or vice versa. |
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" Well its certainly not for the status or bragging rights either because they force that number to appear next to your name even in game chat - the only players I know who ever get close to 40/40 went to play SC and came back to HC. | |
" I posted several times in this thread that it has nothing to do with what the prizes are excactly, my problem is that there is no logic in chosing hardcore if you care about winning the rewards, because they are so much easier to obtain on standard. Because standard is the logical choice if you want to win anything, it is the same as forcing me to play standard, which is not very fun for me because i enjoy taking great care about my builds and learning what i have to avoid and dont die. Hardcore and standard are essentially the same game, but experience and careness is an even greater attribute to have when you play hardcore, and it is only fair you get rewarded for that. I will be so bold here to make a statement that everybody that disagrees with this is probaly only playing standard and the few in this thread that agreed actually plays hardcore because they understand the dilemma. Just like any other game, there are different difficulties and each difficulty is a goal you would strive to beat and just like any other game you get rewarded equally. Last edited by Anubis2108#3783 on Nov 27, 2017, 4:55:29 PM
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" He/she knows "some" stuff alright, and far from me to take anything from "Caesar's due", but that shouldn't make others achievements any less meaningful. Internet connection is always a factor, and some of us "humble hamsters" don't enjoy our "wheels" when they fall down or miss several steps... And as I said before, until "HARDCORE" is properly implemented in "Hardcore League/s", the current situation feels more than satisfying. At most a small change in colour for the MTXs might do the trick, and be sufficient for all sides... PSS: Our almighty TencentGGG overlords are very scrupulous regarding criticizing their abilities to take proper decisions and consider everything "needlessly harsh and condescending"... Good to know "free speech" doesn't apply in any form or manner on the forums these days... Last edited by sofocle10000#6408 on Nov 27, 2017, 4:51:25 PM
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" And the reason for that is pretty obvious. They never wanted rewards to be the reason to play HC. And that is not a bad decision. The reason to play HC is because you want to play HC. I personally would argue that HC is completly unnecessary as a league anyway and you could create a seperate ladder for characters that never died anyway (of course shortterm leagues could still be hardcore, because it is fun to look at who died etc^^). So overall HC in itself is kinda unnecessary and getting rid of the seperate rewards and league mechanics turned HC into a league you just play when you want to play with that ruleset and SSF is the same. The game was never balanced for either HC nor SSF so of course the game is not similar to playing without those rules. |
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^Problem is not that an average HC player won't play HC.
Problem is when you prefer HC but want to go for 40/40 or similar and can't play this game for a living. Current reward system incentivizes playing SC. |
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" It's not about why we play HC. I wouldn't come anywhere near SC even if HC had no prizes at all, but when i see a dude leveling a third super-clearspeed character to 90 in SC during the race it's, like, WTF? Or when GGG tells us that they don't want SC players to feel forced to play HC but you also see they're OK with doing the opposite. I understand that SC players are the majority and they don't want to piss them off, but it just doesn't feel right. HC players rarely complain about this - because i don't think it's going to change anytime soon, and certainly not during this race - but i've heard some negative comments from streamers and here on forums. " No one is telling you that. You can be a great player and choose SC just to be able to play some fun flame-dash totem build you'd never even try in HC. There's that guy on Youtube who creates some absoultely crazy builds in SC and he's my personal favorite. Also, maybe i'm not any better than an average SC player, maybe the only reason i can get to endgame is that i play lower DPS / better survivability builds. But that doesn't mean that HC is not more challenging than SC. I've had some really bad luck lately and lost 3 toons in 3 days - maybe this wouldn't happen if i were a better player but it also wouldn't happen if i were playing in SC. Last edited by LaiTash#6276 on Nov 27, 2017, 5:36:54 PM
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" Heh, it maybe also wouldn't happen if you were playing "HC" in the OFFLINE version of the game disregarding your improvement as a "better player"... But why disregard that there could be reached a compromise, and a small difference regarding the prizes? A bigger difference should be entitled solely if "Hardcore" would also bring more difficult "challenges"... PSS: Our almighty TencentGGG overlords are very scrupulous regarding criticizing their abilities to take proper decisions and consider everything "needlessly harsh and condescending"...
Good to know "free speech" doesn't apply in any form or manner on the forums these days... |
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