When are we getting better trading tools?

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X1Z1 wrote:

The trading system is such an embarrassment that they don't even advertise it in-game. And they won't ever advertise it, because it's a joke. Can you imagine?

Hey guys, to sell your items, you'd have to buy a tab from us, or download this sketchy 3rd party software that asks you for your account information. To buy items, you'd have to go to this 3rd party site, that's full of adds; make sure to turn your add-blocker on. To make the whole thing a little less annoying, you should also download this other 3rd party software that will keep all of the trade offers organized, notify you when new one come in, and help you reply to people. Use at your own risk. We don't ban for it now, but that might change in the future. Oh, and, if you want to price check your items in-game, you can download this 3rd party script. Enjoy.

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Miská wrote:

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X1Z1 wrote:

The trading system is such an embarrassment that they don't even advertise it in-game. And they won't ever advertise it, because it's a joke. Can you imagine?

Hey guys, to sell your items, you'd have to buy a tab from us, or download this sketchy 3rd party software that asks you for your account information. To buy items, you'd have to go to this 3rd party site, that's full of adds; make sure to turn your add-blocker on. To make the whole thing a little less annoying, you should also download this other 3rd party software that will keep all of the trade offers organized, notify you when new one come in, and help you reply to people. Use at your own risk. We don't ban for it now, but that might change in the future. Oh, and, if you want to price check your items in-game, you can download this 3rd party script. Enjoy.

This quote is exactly the reason nobody takes your posts seriously. Not only is it horribly inaccurate. You are flat out lying about trade to make it look worse. Do you really think GGG is gonna look at this childish attempt and give you even a second of their time?

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greatwhitepine wrote:

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Miská wrote:

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X1Z1 wrote:

The trading system is such an embarrassment that they don't even advertise it in-game. And they won't ever advertise it, because it's a joke. Can you imagine?

Hey guys, to sell your items, you'd have to buy a tab from us, or download this sketchy 3rd party software that asks you for your account information. To buy items, you'd have to go to this 3rd party site, that's full of adds; make sure to turn your add-blocker on. To make the whole thing a little less annoying, you should also download this other 3rd party software that will keep all of the trade offers organized, notify you when new one come in, and help you reply to people. Use at your own risk. We don't ban for it now, but that might change in the future. Oh, and, if you want to price check your items in-game, you can download this 3rd party script. Enjoy.

This quote is exactly the reason nobody takes your posts seriously. Not only is it horribly inaccurate. You are flat out lying about trade to make it look worse. Do you really think GGG is gonna look at this childish attempt and give you even a second of their time?

I lol'd at this for sure. Perfect and true (x1's comment that is).

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Oh really? Let me help you abit with that.

First of all you don't need any program to list your items. You can use the forum. Everything you list here will be picked up by API. Secondly, the programs we used to convenience this process never required account details besides an account name, wich is visible anyway. I'm not even sure what he refers to about keeping offers organized, I never needed any such program. Same goes for the price checking script.

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Besides pretty much every inaccuracy in his post he forgets (Conveniently) that WE are the ones that made these tools. Not GGG. Are you also complaining about the steam workshop? About general mods in games? Omg, all that third party material every single game out there these days is relying on. The horrors are real. Seriously, get over yourself and your petty lies. It's not as simple as swithing a button to 'fix' the trading system WE!!! implemented in the last few years.

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greatwhitepine wrote:

I still use acquisition to look at my items but it was a huge time saver for listing lots of items in the shop threads. If we didn't have public stash tabs there is no way I would not use it to list my items. So, IMO, he's right on that.

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greatwhitepine wrote:

Acquisition and the other one (name escapes me) both require you to enter your username and password at least once unless you are using the Steam version of POE which I don't. He's right again.

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greatwhitepine wrote:

You don't need the auto reply and organising script(s??) whatever they are but I'm sure they are also big time savers. If you trade a lot, he's right again on that one too.

Price checking script is POE Trade Macro and is another huge time saver. So, once again, he gets my vote.

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You choose to use a program to convenience yourself. That's on you, not GGG. So no not right. You can do it without with abit more effort. No programs required.

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Again you choose to use those programs, they are certainly very very far from needed.

You can agree him all you want. But my facts are actual facts, not overdramatized nonsense. Atleast have the decence to come with facts before you start complaining.

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Danielskiv wrote:

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You choose to use a program to convenience yourself. That's on you, not GGG. So no not right. You can do it without with abit more effort. No programs required.

Correct, it is used for one's CONVENIENCE. You seem to be repeating this word in some of your replies, which looks as though you were trying to imply that the current trade system is "okay", and we should not complain about it, as we have those, however impractical (or maybe INCONVENIENT in use), tools. Moreover, why does it have to take so much effort in simple trading? Despite what most of you think, trade plays a crucial part in this game. This is the reason SSF exists in the first place (so the people who are against, have the option to not trade at all).

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Again you choose to use those programs, they are certainly very very far from needed.

You can agree him all you want. But my facts are actual facts, not overdramatized nonsense. Atleast have the decence to come with facts before you start complaining.

So you agreed with his (their) statement(s). The only difference is that you repeated again that it is not needed to play the game. By the same token, we don't need a stash, as it is made just for our convenience, aight? Here we go again, go ad hominem all you want, claiming that it is just an "overdramatized nonsense" does not give you any credibility. Glad you can trade via forum, but you know, some people do not want to make so much effort in order to do such a basic thing, which is trading.

Besides, referring to your previous post(s), you point out that all the tools we have for trading now are not made by GGG. It is true, but what of it? These are the trade channels we have to use if we want to trade somewhat efficiently. X1Z1's point still applies, as it is GGG who forces us to do so, as they did not provide us any better way of trading.

I dare to say that your actual "facts" are irrelevant to the discussion; you know, there would be no progress if the aspect of CONVENIENCE was not taken into account. Why change something, if we can deal with it anyway, crippling ourselves, yeah?