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andreicde wrote:
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Kasapnica wrote:
Made a zarker with VP,threw it out after 3 days. So disgustingly cheap yet BRAINLESS passive. You just sit here and hold right click...What does this do but promote bad gameplay balance and turn people into a bad players...This might sound harsh but VP is indeed the worst thing in the entire game.
You ignore mechanics.
You can't die,except for being retarded.
You don't even need to think.
Can't even imagine what bullshit that was with 15k ES.
Not only the game seems balanced around this,but it also pretty much forces someone to be a BAD player,since you don't need to even try. Just sit,hold right click,destroy everything,never die.
Guardians and Shaper,even some uber atziri attacks are absolutely IGNORED. I couldn't stand playing such a cheap build.
EDIT. You know what the worst problem is? GGG will nerf Berserker and leave VP alone.
Wonder when it gets removed someday,will they remember how much builds relied on this crap.
No unfortunately the worst part is not that GGG will nerf zerker, the worst part is that they will nerf zerker, they will most likely nerf life,items with life and leave VP alone, because they will somehow assume that ''the reason this is happening is that players have the life pool to do it'' and pull the same BS that happen to ES on life.
I really hope you guys are wrong and GGG will finally wake up and delete VP from the game. Such a stupid cheese mechanic.
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Posted bygolan4840#5583on Aug 31, 2017, 5:56:19 PM
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I really hope you guys are wrong and GGG will finally wake up and delete VP from the game. Such a stupid cheese mechanic.
It will require more work than just removing it. Damage across the board will require a nerf (on monster side). Overall life leech will most likely be nerfed as well. Though im fine with it.
Hope GGG will take the harder patch and throw some rebalancing.
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Posted byKasapnica#2414on Aug 31, 2017, 6:12:11 PM
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Lemabelle wrote:
White knight problem... Entitled hater problem... Why not both?
Welcome to every online game ever. Ever since World of Warcraft debuted as the first ever online game, people have felt overly entitled to demand changes to a game, while an equal and opposite group of players stepped in to defend the game against all criticism, even when it was warranted.
How dare you. Look up Ultima Online.
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Hey at least ggg aren't wargaming, did you see how they handle criticism ? they threaten a copyright claim against your youtube video if you don't take it down and pull you from their "community contributor" program
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Posted byMonkeyMaestro#5120on Aug 31, 2017, 8:09:36 PM
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Kasapnica wrote:
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I really hope you guys are wrong and GGG will finally wake up and delete VP from the game. Such a stupid cheese mechanic.
It will require more work than just removing it. Damage across the board will require a nerf (on monster side). Overall life leech will most likely be nerfed as well. Though im fine with it.
Hope GGG will take the harder patch and throw some rebalancing.
Now here is the thing... I think a lot of people really just want the spike damage lessoned to only be deadly on telegraphed things...
But if GGG bothers to remove VP I suspect they will do nothing to nerf monster damage. Nothing whatsoever.
I also think it would be pretty entertaining to watch people complain about that.
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Posted bySudianX#6729on Aug 31, 2017, 11:22:01 PM
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j33bus wrote:
What I've found is most "white knights" are actually just people who disagree with whatever complaint people have, and since this is 2017 there could be no possible reason to disagree other than they're crazy and personally attacking someone.
Agree.
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andreicde wrote:
''es got nerfed too hard'' ''stop being a scrub, you most likely were double-dipping ''
Before nerfe the same persons were crying that es is too stronk.
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andreicde wrote:
''there is a new invisible explosion killing players'' ''stop being a scrub staying in volantile range''
There is always something like that to those who doesnt pay attention.
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andreicde wrote:
''harbingers drop less shards now'' ''shut up, I keep getting a better amount than before''
Read the fkcing notes.
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andreicde wrote:
''the nerfs were too big, X and Y class had their damage reduced hardcore'' ''stfu, you were most likely playing meta and abusing some mechanics''
Yea and before "those fuckings meta are destroying game".
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andreicde wrote:
''there is more lag ,crashes and disconnects since 3.0'' ''get a job, get a better comp/fix your shitty internet, I have no issues''
That amount of hard data and technical specs is just astonishing. Serious feedback that anyone can do something with it.
And to the last part - not true.
The problem is that most of those complains are in fact worthless.
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Posted byde99ial#0161on Sep 1, 2017, 12:09:22 AM
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j33bus wrote:
What I've found is most "white knights" are actually just people who disagree with whatever complaint people have, and since this is 2017 there could be no possible reason to disagree other than they're crazy and personally attacking someone.
Agree.
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andreicde wrote:
''es got nerfed too hard'' ''stop being a scrub, you most likely were double-dipping ''
Before nerfe the same persons were crying that es is too stronk.
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andreicde wrote:
''there is a new invisible explosion killing players'' ''stop being a scrub staying in volantile range''
There is always something like that to those who doesnt pay attention.
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andreicde wrote:
''harbingers drop less shards now'' ''shut up, I keep getting a better amount than before''
Read the fkcing notes.
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andreicde wrote:
''the nerfs were too big, X and Y class had their damage reduced hardcore'' ''stfu, you were most likely playing meta and abusing some mechanics''
Yea and before "those fuckings meta are destroying game".
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andreicde wrote:
''there is more lag ,crashes and disconnects since 3.0'' ''get a job, get a better comp/fix your shitty internet, I have no issues''
That amount of hard data and technical specs is just astonishing. Serious feedback that anyone can do something with it.
And to the last part - not true.
The problem is that most of those complains are in fact worthless.
Congrats for proving my point, aka, not giving any reasonable explanation and just pulling the usual ''complaints are worthless''. Keep white knighting some more, dem mystery boxes are coming for yah :D
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Posted byandreicde#0793on Sep 1, 2017, 1:16:12 AM
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andreicde wrote:
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de99ial wrote:
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j33bus wrote:
What I've found is most "white knights" are actually just people who disagree with whatever complaint people have, and since this is 2017 there could be no possible reason to disagree other than they're crazy and personally attacking someone.
Agree.
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andreicde wrote:
''es got nerfed too hard'' ''stop being a scrub, you most likely were double-dipping ''
Before nerfe the same persons were crying that es is too stronk.
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andreicde wrote:
''there is a new invisible explosion killing players'' ''stop being a scrub staying in volantile range''
There is always something like that to those who doesnt pay attention.
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andreicde wrote:
''harbingers drop less shards now'' ''shut up, I keep getting a better amount than before''
Read the fkcing notes.
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andreicde wrote:
''the nerfs were too big, X and Y class had their damage reduced hardcore'' ''stfu, you were most likely playing meta and abusing some mechanics''
Yea and before "those fuckings meta are destroying game".
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andreicde wrote:
''there is more lag ,crashes and disconnects since 3.0'' ''get a job, get a better comp/fix your shitty internet, I have no issues''
That amount of hard data and technical specs is just astonishing. Serious feedback that anyone can do something with it.
And to the last part - not true.
The problem is that most of those complains are in fact worthless.
Congrats for proving my point, aka, not giving any reasonable explanation and just pulling the usual ''complaints are worthless''. Keep white knighting some more, dem mystery boxes are coming for yah :D
I could say the same - you just whine without any actual data.
"Hurr durr game to difficult - lower, gib me more, drop increase, gib more nodes, remowe nodes because I cannot easy play".
You think i dont face difficult situations? I do. But instead of blaming GGG i look for solutions within game mechanics. I try different approach, i test things. Untill i have enought. Then i just stop playing and spent my time on other things.
But you whiners want to spent 8h a day on game and whine because you cannot get what you want - easy game.
You know what? .......
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Posted byde99ial#0161on Sep 1, 2017, 1:30:46 AM
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The amount of "whiteknighthoodery" showing up in a thread is also inversely proportional to the quality of the thread. If your feedback consists of "gaem suxx, fuk u GGG!", then expect to be ridiculed and dismissed. Poorly argumented threads are responded with poor or simplistic counter arguments.
But if you are a bit more constructive in your feedback and comments, then the white knights will not attack in force.
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Posted bymorbo#1824on Sep 1, 2017, 1:43:52 AM
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I've seen very few actual white knights on these forums. I define white knights as people who defend GGG for basically everything they do and where GGG simply can't do anything wrong. I have seen several haters though. I define haters as people who only complain no matter what.
GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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Posted byXavderion#3432on Sep 1, 2017, 1:44:55 AM
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