What happened to GGG?

I don't understand some of the responses in this thread. Do you WANT PoE to be like Dark Souls? Then go play Dark Souls. This game needs to be neither stupid hard nor a loot pinata to be fun. There IS a happy medium. Unfortunately GGG seems to be catering to the Dark Souls crowd more than anything in this patch. Maybe they'll get their heads out of their asses with the next big content patch.
Buffing boss hp is no problem at all if you play strong build they die fast and super easy.
Problem is bad skills and items need huge buff, because build diversity is now very limited.
If you want fun in PoE you need follow meta, niche hipster build = suffering and bad efficiency.
Also a lot of content is simply impossible for bad skills / builds / items.

Your choices are mostly illusion.
Last edited by Elua#0230 on Aug 18, 2017, 11:37:34 AM
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Elua wrote:
Buffing boss hp is no problem at all if you play strong build they die fast and super easy.
Problem is bad skills and items need huge buff, because build diversity is now very limited.
If you want fun in PoE you need follow meta, niche hipster build = suffering and bad efficiency.
Also a lot of content is simply impossible for bad skills / builds / items.

Your choices are mostly illusion.


And those are the worst kind, because they present a kind of lie to a new player. Betrayals of trust like that are rarely forgiven.

"What? I wasn't supposed to play Lightning Strike? How the fuck was I supposed to know that?!"

There is a meta, and there's the in-between of informed players, and then there are casual players and people who don't like spoilers and try to play a game without going straight to the walkthrough websites. You can ridicule those people (and many white knights in these forums do), but their approach is every bit as legitimate, in my opinion. Those are the indivuduals who get shat upon the most heavily by the plethora of false choices in this game.

In short, false choices are worse than no choices, because they demonstrate to a new player that nothing in the game can be trusted, and make the meta-or-go-home problem even worse than it already is.
Wash your hands, Exile!
they care more for xbox instead of giving a good 3.0 update.

harbinger league is total garbage to me
@ gibbousmoon

Well stated, sir.
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gibbousmoon wrote:
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Elua wrote:
Buffing boss hp is no problem at all if you play strong build they die fast and super easy.
Problem is bad skills and items need huge buff, because build diversity is now very limited.
If you want fun in PoE you need follow meta, niche hipster build = suffering and bad efficiency.
Also a lot of content is simply impossible for bad skills / builds / items.

Your choices are mostly illusion.


And those are the worst kind, because they present a kind of lie to a new player. Betrayals of trust like that are rarely forgiven.

"What? I wasn't supposed to play Lightning Strike? How the fuck was I supposed to know that?!"

There is a meta, and there's the in-between of informed players, and then there are casual players and people who don't like spoilers and try to play a game without going straight to the walkthrough websites. You can ridicule those people (and many white knights in these forums do), but their approach is every bit as legitimate, in my opinion. Those are the indivuduals who get shat upon the most heavily by the plethora of false choices in this game.

In short, false choices are worse than no choices, because they demonstrate to a new player that nothing in the game can be trusted, and make the meta-or-go-home problem even worse than it already is.


to be fair this game has always been cruel to those who do not do their homework,

this is not new
I dont see any any key!
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Aim_Deep wrote:
I like everything about it.

Like Boss HP means you actually fight bosses instead of one shot them. Like all the new content 1-10 acts. New bosses. New monsters. Better graphics. I didnt play beta so many things were great to me last week or so I can overlook lackluster harbingers. That said its hard to improve on breach and Legacy unless they deposit a exalt and random unique every 30 min in your stash. Had to be scaled back. Was turning into D3. Too much free shit.


Posts like yours make me lose faith in human kind...

I do not know what universe you come from and what game you play, but an exalt every 30 minutes, are you insane?

I found a single exalt in all of legacy!!! No six link since two years of play, no shaper guardian maps in about 100 t15 maps and so on.

I also never one shotted any bosses, seriously get real dude. If you invest money and trade so be it, but to demand that the game is turned into a nightmare for everyone who doesn´t is just plain stupid.

@ topic

I don´t feel the love with this league. We can no longer tailor the endgame after our liking, as league stones are gone. They again did not buff SSF drop rates, the servers are a mess, lot´s of bugs introduced a half year ago, not fixed, it´s just a pity if you ask me.

Maybe they just don´t have the resources atm. due Xbox release coming up. Let´s hope for more manpower in the future.
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Silahsor wrote:
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thraSh25 wrote:
Yeah this league is not very fun.

Harbinger speaks for itself regarding how boring and underwhelming it is, but that's not my main issue.

The buff to boss health, and more importantly, the nerf to pack size absolutely blows my mind.

Blizzard learned the hard way to never, never under any circumstances remove the primary aspect of fun that their players have. Diablo suffered to the point of them having to entirely recreate the game. It seems GGG has not learned, or even noticed that simple, yet monumental mistake.

It's only a matter of time before others notice and the game rapidly declines; which it's starting to show from what I'm seeing.

Never. Nerf. Fun.


This is so true. D3 was probably the most hyped game of all times but became the greatest fail in the history of the gaming just because dev team totally missed the point what makes an ARPG fun.

Every passing league GGG also giving in more and more to reddit nolife elitists, buffing boss hp, reducing pack size, reducing xp gain, nerfing player damage, ehp etc. And now they wonder why every other player is VP Berserker. With all these buffs to monsters and nerfs to players, common people are forced to play a few selected builds which allows them to spend more time killing monsters than trying to dodge them.

I do truly love this game. Playing nevertheless. But I do also remember what I felt at vanilla D3 Torment act 2 against white flies - not again, never. I hope GGG will soon realize this game is getting more of a burden than fun with every overboard nerf.


Vanilla D3 was almost perfect and the true successor of D1. D2 was a shadow and never a true Diablo game.

Sadly, the D1 haters and bot users turned D3 into what it is today and I bet many of those users also play POE with their virtual currency that they buy for real money...

It´s actually quite sad, how D3 with hardly any new content patches, still has more replayability and quality of life improvements, than POE since I started playing two years ago.

No auto pick up, , no currency inventory, no true rewards for challenges like stash tabs, no true SSF mode, multiple viable builds for endgame and so on.

As far I can tell, the POE devs listen way too much to their few streamers. While I like that Aussie guy, he makes good videos really, but he is not us. That guy perfects everything he does at POE, it starts with macro use, build planners and min maxing, he is trading all day, flips currency... this is not what we folks do.

He does 10 maps, while we do one it´s insane.

During breach league, he farmed breaches in a way that no normal players ever could, we already died during the normal breaches in maps, the difficulty was way too high and the same can be said to the shaper fights.

It´s totally unrealistic to ever kill the endboss in this game, just like it´s not possible to find a six link in years, or reach max level.

Whatever,

I doubt we can change things, so all we can do is enjoy the little bit we get and hope for another company that takes note of the majority once again...
Last edited by Ygidua#3074 on Aug 18, 2017, 4:00:24 PM
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DrDraids wrote:
Yeah i dunno, they went from back to back great leagues with Breach and Legacy to the worst league of all time coupled with increasingly ugly mtx and poor balance choices. Xbox is the only new factor but then again, what can you expect when you start a Xbox version when your PC version well below stable and is still introducing bugs by the patch.

Hell they couldn't even manage buffing this shit tier league, they fucked up and made the only part anyone liked worse!


You sir are spilling out a bunch of nonsense. How legacy was a good league??? It was a shitty league with absolutely nothing new? Since when "op rewarding leagues has become "good leagues"? I do agree that breach is great but legacy was nothing but a fucking mess. Seriously dude look at prophecy league, essence was shit too. I think harbinger kinda sucks but it doesn't suck as much as prophecy for example
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Dr1MaR wrote:
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DrDraids wrote:
Yeah i dunno, they went from back to back great leagues with Breach and Legacy to the worst league of all time coupled with increasingly ugly mtx and poor balance choices. Xbox is the only new factor but then again, what can you expect when you start a Xbox version when your PC version well below stable and is still introducing bugs by the patch.

Hell they couldn't even manage buffing this shit tier league, they fucked up and made the only part anyone liked worse!


You sir are spilling out a bunch of nonsense. How legacy was a good league??? It was a shitty league with absolutely nothing new? Since when "op rewarding leagues has become "good leagues"? I do agree that breach is great but legacy was nothing but a fucking mess. Seriously dude look at prophecy league, essence was shit too. I think harbinger kinda sucks but it doesn't suck as much as prophecy for example


Legacy actually seemed like a decent league compared to the Harbinger crap. New uniques? Good luck getting one of those to drop when those harb fuckers are too greedy to even drop enough shards. It's a shithole league even after the supposed ''drop buffs''. I don't think GGG's devs even know what ''buffs'' stand for.

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