Why is there no auction house?

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Tilveran wrote:

The current system is broken already. Plenty of people have pointed out the script abusers.

So of course those people are going to be in this thread braying "no problem here mate! move along,eh?"

The key to an effective AH in PoE is to get the fees right. Make the fee equal to the price and people will balk at flipping.

Alternatively, have no AH but Player Shops instead.
* The PS is an NPC container that you put your items in and set prices on. GGG makes purchacing one an MTX that goes in your hideout.
* GGG can sell skins for the PS and extra sales tabs for it to make some real $$$. Maybe your PS is a ragged exile with a crappy looking stand, or maybe it's a living gold statue with an ornate table etc.
* Tons of skinning/theme possibilities for players and GGG.
* Buyers of your items can find them through the API/3rd party website/notice board or whatever. Then they will visit your hideout to collect the items off the NPC so you still get to show your hideout off.
* No automated collection.

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Saevan wrote:

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Tilveran wrote:

The current system is broken already. Plenty of people have pointed out the script abusers.

So of course those people are going to be in this thread braying "no problem here mate! move along,eh?"

The key to an effective AH in PoE is to get the fees right. Make the fee equal to the price and people will balk at flipping.

Alternatively, have no AH but Player Shops instead.
* The PS is an NPC container that you put your items in and set prices on. GGG makes purchacing one an MTX that goes in your hideout.
* GGG can sell skins for the PS and extra sales tabs for it to make some real $$$. Maybe your PS is a ragged exile with a crappy looking stand, or maybe it's a living gold statue with an ornate table etc.
* Tons of skinning/theme possibilities for players and GGG.
* Buyers of your items can find them through the API/3rd party website/notice board or whatever. Then they will visit your hideout to collect the items off the NPC so you still get to show your hideout off.
* No automated collection.

I've been saying the same thing about the alternative in several posts (although not so well thought out as you) and it gets ignored. The mindset seems to be AH or nothing. I think it's because it's hard to argue against what you have just laid out.

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shaunika90 wrote:

anyone who thinks AH prices wouldnt be manipulated to bits has never played world of warcraft

altough i'd be fine with an AH of sorts for essences/maps and the like that you generally buy more than 1 for

but definitely not items

i quite like actually having to deal with players, be able to barter/bargain with them AH is way too impersonal

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MECHanokl wrote:

So what? Of course there will be some manipulation going, it happens even in real world with WAY more safe guards than a videogame will ever provide. But an AH will be MILES ahead in all aspects compared to the current crap that we have, including potential of dealing with flippers and scammers TO SOME DEGREE.

Some people above mentioned player shops. I would love to see that and believe it is a viable solution.

Give players an option to make their hideout public, so when you find this person (either through third party crap or whatever), you can just click his nickname and then go to his hideout. Make premium stash tabs simply double size tabs, and give everyone access to the ability to set up a shop.

There. Done. Everyone is happy, and hideouts become more meaningful.

EDIT.

So many people presented ideas on how to make it work, without even taking much time to come up with this. I seriously doubt GGG devs haven't thought about this. This solution would also be in line with their "player interaction (lol like it happens now) trading, without AH functionality (which we have now but with more opportunities for scammers and less controllable). Is there some kind of insidious reason for them to keep the current abomination of a trading system? Do they benefit somehow from this scam open third party website relying trash?

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shaunika90 wrote:

well at least half the people crying for an AH are claiming "flippers and price manipulators" as an excuse, so it's not just "so what"

again, i'm not necessarily against player shops, but that would make bargaining impossible, which i kinda love

i think every consumable should be able to be sold in a player created shop

but items themselves should require personal interaction

i think that's a nice middle ground