I'm tired of picking up orbs on the ground

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PleiadesBlackstar wrote:

I also like to continue to point out that GGG clearly did not design drop rates around people gaining the equivalent of pennies constantly without any or only minimal effort. So they would much rather see people slowly phase out lower currency by ignoring it/having tiered loot filters...

You are arguing from a position of someone who buys his scrolls and alterations in bulk from poe.trade. Obviously if everyone wanted to get his low orbs via trade, no one could.

Scroll trading represents a totally irrelevant portion of the economy, but picking them up represents a good % of clicking on currencies per map. Auto or proximity collection of low orbs would have no noticeable impact on the economy, but would save some wrist wear and busy work.

Auto pickup of gear would be infeasible, as the inventory is very small.

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morbo wrote:

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PleiadesBlackstar wrote:

I also like to continue to point out that GGG clearly did not design drop rates around people gaining the equivalent of pennies constantly without any or only minimal effort. So they would much rather see people slowly phase out lower currency by ignoring it/having tiered loot filters...

You are arguing from a position of someone who buys his scrolls and alterations in bulk from poe.trade. Obviously if everyone wanted to get his low orbs via trade, no one could.

Scroll trading represents a totally irrelevant portion of the economy, but picking them up represents a good % of clicking on currencies per map. Auto or proximity collection of low orbs would have no noticeable impact on the economy, but would save some wrist wear and busy work.

Auto pickup of gear would be infeasible, as the inventory is very small.

Not really. Either this thread or another I pointed out that I pick up most scrolls along my leveling way and that pretty much has me set to never run out once in end game with maybe the potential selling of a stack of alterations or two every couple of weeks. But that is a a maybe. Sure I pick up a croll here and there to compensate but I like picking up any currency so I used filterblade to make my neversink filter have all large currencies making the occasional scroll painless.

And low currencies have a negligible impact on the economy right now because nobody picks them up and even fewer gather a full currency tab stack to start vendoring to NPCs for portals and so on up to something worth the space. I usually only have to do this once per league for 1 currency at all if any and then the garunteed times in standard merges. But go ahead and run maps for an hour and count how many scrolls you drop whether you pick them up or not. See how many you get per hour and I'm not going to cheat, do count how many you use per hour as well so it's a real number of what ends up hoarded.

I am willing to bet that if you average the number of wisdoms people hoard per hour a currency tab slot will fill up super damn quick if you account for the time it took to count all drops whether you picked them up or not. Add on to the potential no need to use time to pick them up if auto looted and boom, you have thousands of scrolls being added to people's tabs per day with no effort. So why wouldn't they trade those scrolls up to the vendor when they get a full tab? The only thing stopping that is clicking on the vendor purchases repeatedly and if you are saving clicks in maps why wouldn't people use them here? Or better yet since one of these threads already popped up, people would be demanding bulk purchases at vendors within minutes of auto looting.

I didn't post my example all over as some sort of doomsday what if slippery slope fallacy. I designed it because it is what will happen if auto loot was added in to the game with no other changes to balance it. Like I said in it, you can nitpick the fine details the speed at which it would inflate the economy is debatable but economics of the game would dictate that it would happen.

That is why it shouldn't be added. That is why not turning it on isnt an option if made an option because it would be stupid not to have it on once added because it would be the only way to keep up with the inflation. It would be mandatory and prices would go to shit sooner rather than later.

I'm not arguing that the convenience qol factor wouldn't be nice, I'm only concerned with how the game would have to be rebalanced if added and it would need to be rebalanced for sure.

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morbo wrote:

Auto pickup of gear would be infeasible, as the inventory is very small

Not since they introdecued item filters.

But anyway, that's the beginning of a slippery slope that GGG don't want to take imho.

It has a meaning in early racing, and there is no need to add inconsistencies to the game, on top of completey removing any form of FFA looting in parties.

Auto loot or area loot would increase currency tab sales.

I don't think anyone has ever specifically said that some streamlining of currency picking up has to have no economic counter balance, (sure I expect an example could be found if someone actually tried,) so why is it assumed by most counter arguments?

As a 'for' argument, if they did implement something they would then have more incentive to fix up the economy.

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HousePet wrote:

As a 'for' argument, if they did implement something they would then have more incentive to fix up the economy.

Care to elaborate ?

And care to elaborate on what needs "fixing" in the economy ?

I must laugh my ass off at the, honestly braindead people, who think it's hardcore or any threat to economy if the lesser(scrolls, alts, aug, trans, wetstones, scrap) are looted in a radius when you pick one.

Like really, what you are saying have next to 0 bearing of logic. It will NEVER be a threat to the economy. Honestly, at content like breaches you earn the most by simply leaving all the low currency and moving on. The game is not in sync with psychology of how the mind works, you shoot yourself in the foot by picking it up because it takes a fair amount of time and is worth almost nothing, so the game leads you to do wrong because not integrated with human mind patterns. It's a noobtrap, all you people who do it and who argue for it are playing like a simple noob. I do it often too, so it's not like i'm better, but it's still true regardless.

There is nothing hardcore whatsoever in having to click an additional 4-50 times for every major pack that is killed to pick up small change that will never be a large part of your income. It is tedious nothing more. I simply laugh my ass off at that comment someone saying earlier it was "hardcore", hahaha, biggest nonsense i ever saw.

I prefer to play the game, not spent too much time clicking clicking loot after loot running around clicking the small insignificant value items so i don't have to be annoyed by leaving them behind.

If you think it's good game quality to spent a lot of time just clicking 3-20x times as much as you need to in order to pick up scrap, then i seriously question your priorities. I'm sure there will be some mobile game that can suit your needs to ridiculous gameplay.

You people aren't to be taken serious, you minds logic is tainted by fearful emotions you think the world is ending and now we become a combine harvester that just rolls across wraeclast and with 0 effort we reap the whole screen and autopickup the loot with a autopickup lootfilter while watching TV and showing 0 care. Your lines of thoughts are completely messed up. It makes no sense. It doesn't change the challenge of the game in any way whatsoever! At best we get a slight gain in efficiency because time we would have spent on playing mobile clicking game app(not play the game just annoyingly clicking low value currency so we aren't annoyed by leaving it behind) can now be spent on actually playing the game we came to play.

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Nykken wrote:

There's already a way for you to not have to click and pick up every little scroll and orb off the floor because it's not worth your time: just don't click on them and move on to the next pack.

Or, you just hide them with your lootfilter.

However, if you play MF build, that gains lots of rares, you may run out of scrolls rapidly. Even if you dont pick up every rare, NOT picking up scrolls/transmutation orbs/etc will make you run out of scrolls eventually.
So, you HAVE to pick up lesser currency in PoE, sadly. And having to click on it to pick it up (to not run out of scrolls) is just tedious - they should be auto-looted.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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Nykken wrote:

There's already a way for you to not have to click and pick up every little scroll and orb off the floor because it's not worth your time: just don't click on them and move on to the next pack.

Or, you just hide them with your lootfilter.

However, if you play MF build, that gains lots of rares, you may run out of scrolls rapidly. Even if you dont pick up every rare, NOT picking up scrolls/transmutation orbs/etc will make you run out of scrolls eventually.
So, you HAVE to pick up lesser currency in PoE, sadly. And having to click on it to pick it up (to not run out of scrolls) is just tedious - they should be auto-looted.

Or you can buy them from players that do pick them up. Crazy idea, right?

poe is based on a pyramid, if you feel its not worth or too much work for you to click on stuff, then pay the price and let other people do it for you.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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Nykken wrote:

There's already a way for you to not have to click and pick up every little scroll and orb off the floor because it's not worth your time: just don't click on them and move on to the next pack.

Or, you just hide them with your lootfilter.

However, if you play MF build, that gains lots of rares, you may run out of scrolls rapidly. Even if you dont pick up every rare, NOT picking up scrolls/transmutation orbs/etc will make you run out of scrolls eventually.
So, you HAVE to pick up lesser currency in PoE, sadly. And having to click on it to pick it up (to not run out of scrolls) is just tedious - they should be auto-looted.

Or you can buy them from players that do pick them up. Crazy idea, right?

poe is based on a pyramid, if you feel its not worth or too much work for you to click on stuff, then pay the price and let other people do it for you.

Or you know, just use alteration orb stacks you get from being an mfer selling junk rares to vendors to literally never run out of scrolls and still make a profit. I've made plenty of mf builds. Claiming that they run out of wisdoms and have no real way of producing more easily is silly. They technically have the easiest means of producing a hell a lot of scrolls, just obviously not efficiently.