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Shadow stats. check pop vs employment rate. Even today they say we have 4.5% but only 60% of able body working.
Amusing you use fake govt stats for data. They got you hook line and sinker.
I'm not surprised you think Russia hacked when govt told you lies like Operation Gladio, Operation Northwoods, the Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq WMDs etc were real
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Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep on Jun 15, 2017, 8:43:21 PM
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Posted byAim_Deepon Jun 15, 2017, 8:36:49 PM
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Shadow stats. check pop vs employment rate. Even today they say we have 4.5% but only 60% of able body working.
Amusing you use fake govt stats for data. They got you hook line and sinker.
I'm not surprised you think Russia hacked when govt told you lies like Operation Gladio, Operation Northwoods, the Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq WMDs etc were real
Yo I got Oklahoma beach front for sale cheap PM me
Well, if you want to call my numbers fake news, you need to produce your source for your numbers. Please tell me which of the stats I posted are false and then post the real numbers. Calling other's numbers fake without posting your alternative with sources shows both your ignorance and lack of reasoning skills. I suspect that you are just blowing smoke out your ass because you don't have any better numbers.
Just calling me wrong without support is childish. Something befitting a 9 year old. Please show me that you are better than that and worthy of continuing this discussion with. Otherwise, i will have to send you a Lego set so you can build your reasoning skills. :p
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Posted byChanBalamon Jun 15, 2017, 9:11:45 PM
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Shadow stats. check pop vs employment rate. Even today they say we have 4.5% but only 60% of able body working.
Amusing you use fake govt stats for data. They got you hook line and sinker.
I'm not surprised you think Russia hacked when govt told you lies like Operation Gladio, Operation Northwoods, the Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq WMDs etc were real
Yo I got Oklahoma beach front for sale cheap PM me
Well, if you want to call my numbers fake news, you need to produce your source for your numbers. Please tell me which of the stats I posted are false and then post the real numbers. Calling other's numbers fake without posting your alternative with sources shows both your ignorance and lack of reasoning skills. I suspect that you are just blowing smoke out your ass because you don't have any better numbers.
Just calling me wrong without support is childish. Something befitting a 9 year old. Please show me that you are better than that and worthy of continuing this discussion with. Otherwise, i will have to send you a Lego set so you can build your reasoning skills. :p
I believe we are not trying to bully each other (if we are, that's what happened in Venezuela's assembly. They had many plans but never been carried through.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hUVo9-Arik
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Posted byfinisterreon Jun 15, 2017, 10:09:21 PM
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Shadow stats. check pop vs employment rate. Even today they say we have 4.5% but only 60% of able body working.
Amusing you use fake govt stats for data. They got you hook line and sinker.
I'm not surprised you think Russia hacked when govt told you lies like Operation Gladio, Operation Northwoods, the Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq WMDs etc were real
Yo I got Oklahoma beach front for sale cheap PM me
Well, if you want to call my numbers fake news, you need to produce your source for your numbers. Please tell me which of the stats I posted are false and then post the real numbers. Calling other's numbers fake without posting your alternative with sources shows both your ignorance and lack of reasoning skills. I suspect that you are just blowing smoke out your ass because you don't have any better numbers.
Just calling me wrong without support is childish. Something befitting a 9 year old. Please show me that you are better than that and worthy of continuing this discussion with. Otherwise, i will have to send you a Lego set so you can build your reasoning skills. :p
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start here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment-to-population_ratio
dont forget I have no ego so you cant insult a space thats empty. Ima all math.
Git R Dun! Last edited by Aim_Deep on Jun 15, 2017, 10:16:29 PM
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Posted byAim_Deepon Jun 15, 2017, 10:14:10 PM
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No, I'm laughing because you think some bullshit manufactured 'tour' by a company can show you ANYTHING of the reality, a reality that I know intimately well because it's my fucking heritage. And FYI I have worked more years than you've been alive, mr 21 and doesn't know shit about shit. Had my first job when I was 11 doing manual labour. Only stopped working full time a few years ago due to illness and thanks to my *current* circumstances I have been able to lessen my need to work and take my time.
So kindly stop talking out of your arse.
You abandoned heritage for west. I'm pashtun from Afghanistan but don't claim to speak for them 1-2 gen removed. This is like everyone from Boston thinks they are Irish. Naw man I'm American though and though
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Posted byAim_Deepon Jun 15, 2017, 10:29:44 PM
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Shadow stats. check pop vs employment rate. Even today they say we have 4.5% but only 60% of able body working.
Amusing you use fake govt stats for data. They got you hook line and sinker.
I'm not surprised you think Russia hacked when govt told you lies like Operation Gladio, Operation Northwoods, the Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq WMDs etc were real
Yo I got Oklahoma beach front for sale cheap PM me
Well, if you want to call my numbers fake news, you need to produce your source for your numbers. Please tell me which of the stats I posted are false and then post the real numbers. Calling other's numbers fake without posting your alternative with sources shows both your ignorance and lack of reasoning skills. I suspect that you are just blowing smoke out your ass because you don't have any better numbers.
Just calling me wrong without support is childish. Something befitting a 9 year old. Please show me that you are better than that and worthy of continuing this discussion with. Otherwise, i will have to send you a Lego set so you can build your reasoning skills. :p
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start here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment-to-population_ratio
dont forget I have no ego so you cant insult a space thats empty. Ima all math.
I looked at your link. Three points. First, when you throw out statistics you should identify what they are and why you choose them over what is typical. You said 50% unemployment. Second, the Employment to population ratio measures something different from the unemployment rate. You failed to differentiate between your number and what is usually used. Your bias against the "unemployment rate as a fake government number" seems odd since the Employment to population ration is also a government number. Just because it measures something different doesn't mean it isn't just as fake. lastly, i looked for the employment population ratio for the 1920-1940s. I could not find any data. All i could find was data after 1947. where did you get your 50% number?
You throw out misleading, and unexplained data and unsubstantiated claims. You said all my depression stats were fake. Where are your numbers and sources. Your childishness shows up when you say things like "All your numbers are fake. The government tells nothing but lies." and leave it at that. I have no problem admitting I am wrong, but you need more than your opinion to get me to that point.
"Gratitude is wine for the soul. Go on. Get drunk." Rumi
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Posted byChanBalamon Jun 15, 2017, 10:58:52 PM
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You dont need to tell me anything. I've been there to 15 Asian cities actually on a Cathay pacific tour of orient.
LOLOLOLOLOL.
OH FUCK I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING.
I did the same thing whenever you mention how you have visited the USA a couple of times but claim to know what life is really like over here.
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Posted byWraeclastianon Jun 15, 2017, 11:33:44 PM
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that might not actually be the case. The birth rate in the uk and usa are around 1.85 per woman, that means the average 2 person couple is producing less than 2 people. The more civilised and advanced a culture gets the more we seem to drift towards declining populations, not stable, certainly not growing.
Doesn't matter because of immigration. The growth is there and the end result is the same, regardless if your native population has many kids or you import people from countries that have many kids. And if you think that we can somehow bring technological and economical equality to the whole world simultaneously, then we are back at communist utopias. Africa alone is projected to have 2 billion people by 2050 == totally insane rates of growth, that technology will not be able to keep up with.
You cannot have "unlimited" procreation and a welfare state. You either have a competitive evolutionary system, where the low IQ an lazy don't reproduce in great numbers, because there are no welfare programs, or you have a welfare state but put hard limits on the number of people. Something has to cull the population. If you try to have everything, you'll just collapse - which is what will happen in the West.
Western countries hardly manage to sustain a welfare state right now, when the majority of the population still works and pays taxes. Not sure how do you picture a society where 80% of people do not produce anything, but rely on the 20% and "robots" (who owns the robots, btw?). Not to mention such a society cannot be a free society anymore, but only a "tyranny of the unemployed" - those 80% on welfare would never vote for anything that would hurt their welfare. You already see this problem in the US, where the welfare state destroyed whole communities (mainly blacks), who now vote only for Democrats because the Dems are the party of "free" stuff.
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Posted bymorboon Jun 16, 2017, 12:36:41 AM
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keep a population limit by force.
Is there any resources that proves the growth of population has no limit, or no way to feed current world population ?
What is the theoretical (physical) limit of Earth sustainability is irrelevant. If you want to achieve certain goals, you have to make compromises:
1.) you can have an ever growing world population
2.) or you can have an environment that is not polluted, destroyed and pillaged
3.) or you can have no poverty
Pick one.
Unlimited population brings poverty and destruction of the ecosystem, as tribes / countries / coalitions compete for power and resources. War is the main culling tool.
You could solve world poverty (aka "inequality"), but not without extracting every bit of natural resources and/or put severe limits on population growth, which requires an authoritarian regime.
You can have an environment that is not pillaged of resources, not polluted and destroyed, but not if you want "every child on the planet to own a laptop" and every teen having a car and every family being in the "middle class".
You can't have it all, so decide which is more important to you.
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start here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment-to-population_ratio
dont forget I have no ego so you cant insult a space thats empty. Ima all math.
I looked at your link. Three points. First, when you throw out statistics you should identify what they are and why you choose them over what is typical. You said 50% unemployment. Second, the Employment to population ratio measures something different from the unemployment rate. You failed to differentiate between your number and what is usually used. Your bias against the "unemployment rate as a fake government number" seems odd since the Employment to population ration is also a government number. Just because it measures something different doesn't mean it isn't just as fake. lastly, i looked for the employment population ratio for the 1920-1940s. I could not find any data. All i could find was data after 1947. where did you get your 50% number?
You throw out misleading, and unexplained data and unsubstantiated claims. You said all my depression stats were fake. Where are your numbers and sources. Your childishness shows up when you say things like "All your numbers are fake. The government tells nothing but lies." and leave it at that. I have no problem admitting I am wrong, but you need more than your opinion to get me to that point.
http://www.pnas.org/content/106/41/17290.full
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Abstract
Recent events highlight the importance of examining the impact of economic downturns on population health. The Great Depression of the 1930s was the most important economic downturn in the U.S. in the twentieth century. We used historical life expectancy and mortality data to examine associations of economic growth with population health for the period 1920–1940. We conducted descriptive analyses of trends and examined associations between annual changes in health indicators and annual changes in economic activity using correlations and regression models. Population health did not decline and indeed generally improved during the 4 years of the Great Depression, 1930–1933, with mortality decreasing for almost all ages, and life expectancy increasing by several years in males, females, whites, and nonwhites. For most age groups, mortality tended to peak during years of strong economic expansion (such as 1923, 1926, 1929, and 1936–1937). In contrast, the recessions of 1921, 1930–1933, and 1938 coincided with declines in mortality and gains in life expectancy. The only exception was suicide mortality which increased during the Great Depression, but accounted for less than 2% of deaths. Correlation and regression analyses confirmed a significant negative effect of economic expansions on health gains. The evolution of population health during the years 1920–1940 confirms the counterintuitive hypothesis that, as in other historical periods and market economies, population health tends to evolve better during recessions than in expansions.
http://www.pnas.org/content/106/41/17290.figures-only
It's not social welfare that collapsed the country.
https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2017/06/15/claps-is-a-giant-scam/
http://www.caracaschronicles.com/2016/06/16/youre-hungry-know-clap-hands/
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