Sooooooo VP goodbye

Unless endgame monster damage is address, changing VP much if at all is going to be a train wreck.
Everyone with half a brain knows that removing VP without touching monster damage, will hurt the game considerably and make end game impossible for a lot of builds. But everyone with half a brain also knows that VP is arguable OP at the moment.

Whatever they do, it needs to be in synergy with monster damage.
Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you.
^^^^^^^^^ times a million.

The best defense at the moment is instantaneous leech.

Are there meta builds that could come out of nerfing the bejeezus out of VP without addressing monster damage? If there are, how many and how varied? Would this further restrict viable end-game builds?

I am certainly not a build guru to answer those question.
read this somewhere long ago, some people suggest something like these.

VP = leech is only 50% effectiveness. (no regen is a lousy drawback, 50% less leaching effectiveness is more like a PROPER drawback)
Ghost reaver = 50% of leech now only apply to ES.
Move VP to Marauder & duelist area

that means CI guys will leech 25% of what it is now.
do people forget that all of these ideas for VP have already been tried? its already been moved, it was already given 40% leech effectiveness etc.

ViolateTheDead is right. with the way the game is right now with end game damage and how defenses are working currently, VP is required. VP being the only effective defense is not VPs fault or problem, and the fix is not to nerf VP....its to address why and what is making VP is the only effective defense
Guys, plz stop that "VP is only viable defense, playing w/o it is IMPOSSIBLE" bullshit. Every god damn build in this game can do endgame without VP. The only thing that VP is needed for is FACETANKING EVERYTHING. Use ut fking brain, use ur fking "skill" and start doing something that you should do in EVERY GOD DAMN ARPG - DODGE BY USING MOUSE!! Attacks from moobs are not locked on you, you can dodge by fking moving!!

Last edited by Aynix on Feb 22, 2017, 11:07:27 AM
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Aynix wrote:
Guys, plz stop that "VP is only viable defense, playing w/o it is IMPOSSIBLE" bullshit. Every god damn build in this game can do endgame without VP. The only thing that VP is needed for is FACETANKING EVERYTHING. Use ut fking brain, use ur fking "skill" and start doing something that you should do in EVERY GOD DAMN ARPG - DODGE BY USING MOUSE!! Attacks from moobs are not locked on you, you can dodge by fking moving!!



This. VP is not required AT ALL! People have done shaper and uber with CI/EB meaning 1 life.

VP is required to face tank.

Actually not totally true you can still get things like 100% all resists and 90% physical dam mit but people like DPS more than defenses.
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Last edited by Aim_Deep on Feb 22, 2017, 11:27:08 AM
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Aim_Deep wrote:
VP is required to face tank.

It isn't really, it's required for facetanking with a build that has zero defense investment sans the buffer pool, and that's the whole problem. Facetanking with such a build shouldn't be possible, which means the keystone can go, as simple as that.
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Last edited by raics on Feb 22, 2017, 11:29:49 AM
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