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Hi :)
Not sure if your are comparing pure spec vs golems + specs or necro vs occu vs ele?
Switching between necro, ele and occu is very easy as gear and tree are basically the same. Almost only Ascendancy nodes have to be respecced and first labyrinth ran to switch between Ascendancies.
Differences are defense, offence and utility related :
Necro is cheapest to gear and has best boss damage. Specters deal massive damage while Ascendancy gives nice block chance and elemental resistances which makes gearing easier.
Elementalist is more damage oriented, but I really like the 4+1+1 Golems mix if you have currency to buy Death's Door boots and maybe chance to blind gloves. You are immune to freeze, chill, burn, shock, bleed and with blind mobs miss you half the time. Bit expensive but really worth it.
Occultist is demanding on gear as it requires high ES to really regen ES back fast. However ability to curse hexproof mobs makes maps super safe and chaos explosions clear trash mobs faster than Necro or Ele. ES regen can easily stay at 20-30% per sec, so dying to trash mob is very hard. Capping curses is easier with Occultist as you get free curse effectiveness and extra curse.
If not sure, I would start as Necro as its very strong and should be familiar to you. Once you get to know the mechanics and defenses, maybe switch to ele or occu to test them? ;)
Yes, I am pure spec build.I am wondering if I should stay necro, or go elemntalist , coz I really liked your idea with 4-1-1 golems.
Last edited by AlexAndonov#6781 on Mar 25, 2018, 11:33:53 AM
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Posted byAlexAndonov#6781on Mar 25, 2018, 11:31:42 AM
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Alrighty, completed my atlas today and killed everything by myself using "decent" gear.
Such a fun build :)
Thanks.
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Posted bycuz1h#5280on Mar 25, 2018, 11:35:11 AM
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With Necromancer Ascendancy what is the setup ? only flame golems and TV's?
Last edited by AlexAndonov#6781 on Mar 25, 2018, 4:33:14 PM
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Posted byAlexAndonov#6781on Mar 25, 2018, 3:14:12 PM
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Hello, i have a question reguarding Animate Guardian, reading the guide i see the on that on the recommened items for it, they have a gem on them. So i bought the items and put the gems and dropped them but it wouldnt 'wear' them, then i removed the gems and it 'took' them, but on the guide says "You lose all gear it has if it dies, so to avoid its dying, it should not be used before its level 19-20. Without any defensive support gems". What does it mean ?
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Posted bymanosdal#0556on Mar 25, 2018, 5:11:14 PM
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2119942
Hello mates, i have build some HC variant for this build.Lose some damage, but get much more survivability(i think its immortal if u just SC and w8 ur golems kill), and also can do any map mod.You are imune from any type of leech too.
The build uses a watchers eye with -7 mana cost for skills, 1x anima, 1x migt and 4x harmony
Key stones are ZO, BM, IR, EE.
We use 8 auras to bost as much as possible our resist and gives +24 as and cast speed to minions.We have tons of armour, ES, resist and regen(almost 15%), also gloves are linked to proc unhearth + spirit ofering with CWDT lvl 1, this combo heals us almost 1,5~2k ES per 500 damage taken, gives more minion damage and make them immortal too.
With a add lightning dmg on ring we proc EE with SC.
The suport minions are 2 TV only linked with minion life to give us - fire resist and some damage.AG give us ground and 2 curses(flam+elemenal weak)
AG gear is:
Bringer of rain
Zahndethus' Cassock Sage's Robe
Dreadarc Cleaver
Sentari's Answer Brass Spirit Shield
Rainbowstride Conjurer Boots
Southbound Soldier Gloves
This build gives constant ground, flamability and elemental weakness together.
Phanteon: Soul of Arkaali and poison imunity.
Bandits: kill all
The damage is still high and the character are tank as hell.

I have leveled to 90 now and got the last minion damage node, so its +185 now.
Gear
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Skill tree:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMDAASzBS0NfA48EVAUcRUnFy8YVhmKGjgajxslHNwdFB2qIWAi9CW8KPoppSziMtE6UkCgRUdGcUa3SbFLrk25VdZXyVnzWpFeE1-wYVJk52ZUZp5mumhlaHRo8mqsa9tsC20Zb55yD3KpdPF6730YgKSCx4MJhMWFYIZgiECMsY8aj0aQM5BVkyeUb5itm4qboZu1oS-iAKaspwinK6h9qsSsqrQMuJO-T76KwGbDOspKytPMvNNv04_T-9fP2VvaYttP34rfv-DD4YjpAuoY6rrr7uyD7IrvTu-I8B_z3fba9zL3wffX-Ov5N_no-tL7Cf5J?accountName=Bhaltamoz&characterName=Eyslym
I think that's all. Ty mika2salo for the nice build.
OBS: i have a enlighted lvl 4 but a level 3 also works(98% reserved life)
Last edited by Bhaltamoz#1174 on Mar 25, 2018, 8:41:55 PM
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Posted byBhaltamoz#1174on Mar 25, 2018, 7:32:20 PM
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Hey there I found a 3b2r1g Skin of the Loyal today and instead of selling it my first thought was: Finally I can do a Golembuild :D
Would you suggest lvling it a diffrent way knowing that I can provide the chest and the jewels from the start? I am a noob to minion builds ;)
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Posted bySchattenlord92#2603on Mar 25, 2018, 10:59:14 PM
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AlexAndonov wrote:
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Hi :)
Not sure if your are comparing pure spec vs golems + specs or necro vs occu vs ele?
Switching between necro, ele and occu is very easy as gear and tree are basically the same. Almost only Ascendancy nodes have to be respecced and first labyrinth ran to switch between Ascendancies.
Differences are defense, offence and utility related :
Necro is cheapest to gear and has best boss damage. Specters deal massive damage while Ascendancy gives nice block chance and elemental resistances which makes gearing easier.
Elementalist is more damage oriented, but I really like the 4+1+1 Golems mix if you have currency to buy Death's Door boots and maybe chance to blind gloves. You are immune to freeze, chill, burn, shock, bleed and with blind mobs miss you half the time. Bit expensive but really worth it.
Occultist is demanding on gear as it requires high ES to really regen ES back fast. However ability to curse hexproof mobs makes maps super safe and chaos explosions clear trash mobs faster than Necro or Ele. ES regen can easily stay at 20-30% per sec, so dying to trash mob is very hard. Capping curses is easier with Occultist as you get free curse effectiveness and extra curse.
If not sure, I would start as Necro as its very strong and should be familiar to you. Once you get to know the mechanics and defenses, maybe switch to ele or occu to test them? ;)
Yes, I am pure spec build.I am wondering if I should stay necro, or go elemntalist , coz I really liked your idea with 4-1-1 golems.
Hello :)
I would try Elementalist if you can get all the gear like deaths doors. The setup is extremely safe, fun to play and deals tons of damage. It's also different from spec necro, so you get some variation to playstyle ;)
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Alrighty, completed my atlas today and killed everything by myself using "decent" gear.
Such a fun build :)
Thanks.
Thanks for support ^^
Gz on getting full Atlas!
Gear and links look very good. Have you tried Occultist or Elementalist yet? ;)
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With Necromancer Ascendancy what is the setup ? only flame golems and TV's?
Hi!
With Elementalist you can run only Animate Guardian to keep Specs better alive with 6% regen as they dont have the 100% increased life from "Soul Weaver". Especially if you dont have minion life support in pseudo 6link helmet for Specters might die rarely in endgame fights. AG has also extra function like cursing enemies, drawing aggro and hindering their movement by -25%.
You can also replace Animate Guardian on clayshaper with "Fortify" to get extra protection for yourself when you shield charge towards enemy.
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Hello, i have a question reguarding Animate Guardian, reading the guide i see the on that on the recommened items for it, they have a gem on them. So i bought the items and put the gems and dropped them but it wouldnt 'wear' them, then i removed the gems and it 'took' them, but on the guide says "You lose all gear it has if it dies, so to avoid its dying, it should not be used before its level 19-20. Without any defensive support gems". What does it mean ?
Hey :)
Animate Guardians items are tied to char that summons AG out. You can take AG gem out and even insert new one, and new summoned AG will have the same gear as last one. However if the AG would die, you will lose all items you have equipped to it. That's why its very important to not take AG out in labyrinth, hall of GM and endgame bosses like Shaper or Uber Atziri.
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2119942
Hello mates, i have build some HC variant for this build.Lose some damage, but get much more survivability(i think its immortal if u just SC and w8 ur golems kill), and also can do any map mod.You are imune from any type of leech too.
The build uses a watchers eye with -7 mana cost for skills, 1x anima, 1x migt and 4x harmony
Key stones are ZO, BM, IR, EE.
We use 8 auras to bost as much as possible our resist and gives +24 as and cast speed to minions.We have tons of armour, ES, resist and regen(almost 15%), also gloves are linked to proc unhearth + spirit ofering with CWDT lvl 1, this combo heals us almost 1,5~2k ES per 500 damage taken, gives more minion damage and make them immortal too.
With a add lightning dmg on ring we proc EE with SC.
The suport minions are 2 TV only linked with minion life to give us - fire resist and some damage.AG give us ground and 2 curses(flam+elemenal weak)
AG gear is:
Bringer of rain
Zahndethus' Cassock Sage's Robe
Dreadarc Cleaver
Sentari's Answer Brass Spirit Shield
Rainbowstride Conjurer Boots
Southbound Soldier Gloves
This build gives constant ground, flamability and elemental weakness together.
Phanteon: Soul of Arkaali and poison imunity.
Bandits: kill all
I have leveled to 90 now and got the last minion damage node, so its +185 now.
Skill tree:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMDAASzBS0NfA48EVAUcRUnFy8YVhmKGjgajxslHNwdFB2qIWAi9CW8KPoppSziMtE6UkCgRUdGcUa3SbFLrk25VdZXyVnzWpFeE1-wYVJk52ZUZp5mumhlaHRo8mqsa9tsC20Zb55yD3KpdPF6730YgKSCx4MJhMWFYIZgiECMsY8aj0aQM5BVkyeUb5itm4qboZu1oS-iAKaspwinK6h9qsSsqrQMuJO-T76KwGbDOspKytPMvNNv04_T-9fP2VvaYttP34rfv-DD4YjpAuoY6rrr7uyD7IrvTu-I8B_z3fba9zL3wffX-Ov5N_no-tL7Cf5J?accountName=Bhaltamoz&characterName=Eyslym
I think that's all. Ty mika2salo for the nice build.
OBS: i have a enlighted lvl 4 but a level 3 also works(98% reserved life)
The damage is still high and the character are tank as hell.
Hey and thanks for support ^^
The setup looks pretty tanky!
Hopefully it will help HC players interested in the build :)
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Hey there I found a 3b2r1g Skin of the Loyal today and instead of selling it my first thought was: Finally I can do a Golembuild :D
Would you suggest lvling it a diffrent way knowing that I can provide the chest and the jewels from the start? I am a noob to minion builds ;)
Hi :)
Gz on getting Sotl!
If you can get Anima Stone and primordial Might, you can start using Flame Golems as soon as you can summon them. I would get Tukohama Vanguard Specters for boss kills damage and Golems for clear-speed as soon as you can get them ;)
[3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist
https://tinyurl.com/y8k9fa2f
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Posted bymika2salo#7776on Mar 26, 2018, 7:30:58 AM
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Sorry for the noob question again, but how do I get 6 golems at a time ?
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Posted byAlexAndonov#6781on Mar 26, 2018, 7:50:54 AM
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AlexAndonov wrote:
Sorry for the noob question again, but how do I get 6 golems at a time ?
2 for 2x clayshaper
2 for anima stone and 3x primordial
2 for elementalist
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Posted bySumm3r#6158on Mar 26, 2018, 8:49:10 AM
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So what is better ascendancy to use?
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Posted byEnigmer#6632on Mar 26, 2018, 9:11:10 AM
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