Donald Trump and US politics

just stop trying Wretch, can't change anything

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Manocean wrote:

just stop trying Wretch, can't change anything

I know you're right :/

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TheWretch wrote:

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faerwin wrote:

No, I watched the whole thing (of one rally). Not just selected incidents.

There was constantly insults being hurled by the crowd whenever Trump would talk about preventing muslism TERRORISTS from entering the US or whenever he spoke about mexican CRIMINALS.

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FTFY

Its always nice when you leave out key details to fit your narrative

No.

What he said was to ban ALL muslisms from traveling to the US (which was then moved to a few select countries with a very strong majority of muslisms). The crowd reacted without care for those that weren't terrorists and put all of them in a single basket. Same go for the mexicans (doesn't help that he did some seriously incendiary comments on mexicans). Even if he only meant (yeah right...) illegals from Mexico, the way he portrayed the mexicans as a whole was extremely negative and you could see it in how the crowd reacted.

Mind you, I have nothing against the idea of deporting illegals (Canada, especially Québec) has a huge illegal problem right now that is due to Trump being president.

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faerwin wrote:

Mind you, I have nothing against the idea of deporting illegals (Canada, especially Québec) has a huge illegal problem right now that is due to Trump being president.

Well, here it is controversial to want to deport people who are here illegally and have been convicted of a felony. People protest against this.

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faerwin wrote:

Mind you, I have nothing against the idea of deporting illegals (Canada, especially Québec) has a huge illegal problem right now that is due to Trump being president.

I live in Montreal. I call bullshit on that. Please cite your source.

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TheWretch wrote:

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faerwin wrote:

Mind you, I have nothing against the idea of deporting illegals (Canada, especially Québec) has a huge illegal problem right now that is due to Trump being president.

I live in Montreal. I call bullshit on that. Please cite your source.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/illegal-asylum-seekers-quebec-rcmp-border-1.3981117
http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1004723/refugies-migrants-asile-voie-illegale-frontiere-entree-canada

There's many others but they don't cite numbers.

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faerwin wrote:

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Manocean wrote:

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Pwnzors87 wrote:

Pro economic growth and anti Immigration actually contradict´s itself.

Is this a straw man comment? How many people are anti-immigration these days?

The right is a grouping of people that have hate for people that are different than themselves and they use their numbers as a way to protect themselves from retribution.


Now, I'm sure there's a lot of people that define themselves as right wing that aren't those things and to those, I respect you. But if you are on the right because you view yourself as more important than another race/another gender/another sexual orientation, then fuck off.

That sound´s like a reasonable way to protect yourself O.o

I don´t know if you meant me, but it´s out of context... gosh i shouldn´t have wrote it.
I actually didn´t want to reply to this thread again, but i Keep it short.

A) Nobody critizes or laugh´s about Refugee´s, all the moaning is rather profilaktik, they probaply won´t go home after the war. Protect them from what? Going home, is that a punishment? like rofl

B) You are pretty delusional if you think that muslim´s are victim´s. Go to Saudi Arabia, put the gay rainbow colours on, wave a cross, and see how faar you come. And if you now procedee to tell me that Saudi arabia isn´t islamic than, realy...

No mather were Islam is, it alway´s clashes with the native Population, be it christian´s,budhist,hindus,pegan,etc.
Even the full of flower´s and bunny´s dalailama and budhist´s start to critizes them.

Through it´s 1600 jear´s of existance, Islam has been constantly at war, against other against themself´s. Once a couple muslim´s stop believing in Sunna XY, boom a new sub-Group is formed, which than is at conflikt with the rest.

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faerwin wrote:

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TheWretch wrote:

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faerwin wrote:

Mind you, I have nothing against the idea of deporting illegals (Canada, especially Québec) has a huge illegal problem right now that is due to Trump being president.

I live in Montreal. I call bullshit on that. Please cite your source.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/illegal-asylum-seekers-quebec-rcmp-border-1.3981117
http://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1004723/refugies-migrants-asile-voie-illegale-frontiere-entree-canada

There's many others but they don't cite numbers.

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In January, 452 people claimed asylum at Quebec border crossings — a 230 per cent increase from January 2016. And that may represent only half of the total number of asylum seekers who entered last month, if other ports of entry are included.

That's interesting lol

So if you have no numbers how would you know there's an influx of them? Much less an influx of them due to Trump being president, as you originally stated.

So a whole 452 people...woah. Influx? "Huge illegal problem" Ya, no. Cmon now.

I didn't cite the others because those didn't include numbers. The ones I DID cite have the numbers.

That's 452 that asked for asylum, in the middle of winter, in one entry point of the largest border in the world.

I can assure you that it means there's a lot more than that that truly enter Canada illegally. And yes, it's because of Trump's politic. Just look at the numbers. 230% jump compared to the same period last year, the jump happened when Trump got elected.

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faerwin wrote:

I didn't cite the others because those didn't include numbers. The ones I DID cite have the numbers.

Yes. The number cited was 452 in January. Hardly a "huge illegal problem".

No mention of how this is any way shape or form related to a Trump presidency.

E: If i had to guess, I'd say the increase has much more to do with Cuckdeau's virtue signaling that hey, all are welcome here and we'll gladly pay for your welfare and medical bills come on over!

Can't wait for the inevitable Conservative win next election :)