Donald Trump and US politics

You guys are crazy :D

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DalaiLama wrote:
CNN seems like they live to fail. They still haven't realized that the Syrian deaths were not from Syrian use of chemical weapons, but from the destruction of a factory in Khan Sheikhoun used by terrorists to make chemical weapons - reportedly to ship to Iraq.


How do you know which is true? Assad? Rebels? ISIS? AQ? Turkey? Russia? Factory?

I have no idea which one is responsible. It's crazy that you seem to believe one because...? Because...?
Oh, probably because some Tucker Carlson (I'm fucking rolling on the floor) site said so.


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Syrian military denies responsibility
The Syrian army "categorically denies the use of chemical and poisonous material in Khan Sheikhoun," the General Command said in a statement.
"The Syrian army holds the terrorist groups and those supporting them responsible for the use of chemical and poisonous material and for the careless wasting of innocent civilians' lives to achieve their despicable goals and agendas," the statement said.
In an apparent reference to the crisis, two state-run Syrian media outlets earlier reported an explosion at a "rebel poison gas factory" in the countryside of Idlib province, implying that it was an accident related to rebels building chemical weapons. Idlib province is largely controlled by an alliance of rebel forces and is regularly targeted in airstrikes by the Syrian military and its ally, Russia.


It's almost like I didn't copy this directly from CNN.
Casually casual.

Last edited by TheAnuhart#4741 on Apr 4, 2017, 11:41:04 PM
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TheAnuhart wrote:
You guys are crazy :D
Spoiler

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DalaiLama wrote:
CNN seems like they live to fail. They still haven't realized that the Syrian deaths were not from Syrian use of chemical weapons, but from the destruction of a factory in Khan Sheikhoun used by terrorists to make chemical weapons - reportedly to ship to Iraq.



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Syrian military denies responsibility
The Syrian army "categorically denies the use of chemical and poisonous material in Khan Sheikhoun," the General Command said in a statement.
"The Syrian army holds the terrorist groups and those supporting them responsible for the use of chemical and poisonous material and for the careless wasting of innocent civilians' lives to achieve their despicable goals and agendas," the statement said.
In an apparent reference to the crisis, two state-run Syrian media outlets earlier reported an explosion at a "rebel poison gas factory" in the countryside of Idlib province, implying that it was an accident related to rebels building chemical weapons. Idlib province is largely controlled by an alliance of rebel forces and is regularly targeted in airstrikes by the Syrian military and its ally, Russia.


It's almost like I didn't copy this directly from CNN.


lol

I do hope Trump shows some balls and does something about this though. Accident or not some mofos gotta fry by American military might for this if for no other reason than a show of force.


Perception is something powerful it seems...
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GeorgAnatoly wrote:
I do hope Trump shows some balls and does something about this though. Accident or not some mofos gotta fry by American military might for this if for no other reason than a show of force.


Don't expect any action from Trump.

He's at least 10 times on record saying US should not interfere in Syria. Oh, wait, now he is blaming Obama for not interfering in Syria.

I guess it depends on what Hanity says.
Casually casual.

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soneka101 wrote:
Perception is something powerful it seems...


Maybe in a democracy. I mean there's like 75% in favour of a single payer universal healthcare, which is pretty fking high with all the fear mongering that has been fed opposing such.

But the government isn't for the people, it's for the corporations and the donors.
Casually casual.

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TheAnuhart wrote:
You guys are crazy :D

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DalaiLama wrote:
CNN seems like they live to fail. They still haven't realized that the Syrian deaths were not from Syrian use of chemical weapons, but from the destruction of a factory in Khan Sheikhoun used by terrorists to make chemical weapons - reportedly to ship to Iraq.


How do you know which is true? Assad? Rebels? ISIS? AQ? Turkey? Russia? Factory?


Numerous sources (none that you are supposing- and most non-western) with names of people who would know or could verify. Also, the injury descriptions don't really match the expected outcome of the chemical weaponry claimed in the MSM reports. The photos I've seen of victims don't match up with one of the two supposed chemical agents, and even the other is questionable. Now, this is true if the chemicals were dispersed at weaponized ranges. If the chemical exposure occurred at much higher concentrations as it would with people exposed to a factory blast, then the effects mentioned make perfect sense, and are not all that dependent on the chemical agent used.



"The only legitimate use of a computer is to play games." - Eugene Jarvis
PoE Origins - Piety's story http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2081910
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TheAnuhart wrote:
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soneka101 wrote:
Perception is something powerful it seems...


Maybe in a democracy. I mean there's like 75% in favour of a single payer universal healthcare, which is pretty fking high with all the fear mongering that has been fed opposing such.

But the government isn't for the people, it's for the corporations and the donors.


I'd wager that more than 75% would be in favour of free health care, not having to work and whatever else they can easily get if it was offered. The reason the number jumped up, is people are aware that they have something now (no matter how bad or expensive it is) and due to media hype, are concerned they will end up with nothing.

It's like someone wanting to keep a low paying job with a terrible boss because the economy is bad and you might not get any other job.

Congress could learn from GGG - fix a little at a time in manageable chunks, instead of trying to do everything in giant omnibus bills.
"The only legitimate use of a computer is to play games." - Eugene Jarvis
PoE Origins - Piety's story http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2081910
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TheAnuhart wrote:
I mean there's like 75% in favour of a single payer universal healthcare,


I have no idea where you got 75%.

Pew Research as of January of this year showed only 28% support for single-payer government-run healthcare. If you read the report in full, you will see only 60% of Americans believe the government should ensure healthcare for all.
But here's the kicker....the 28% support number means 28% of the 60%. So the real support for single-payer is actually a drastically lower number if all Americans are included.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/13/more-americans-say-government-should-ensure-health-care-coverage/


The Atlantic (not a conservative rag by any means) states that "Twenty-eight percent of all people polled in a recent Gallup survey expressed support for a single-payer system run by the government."

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/02/universal-health-care-polls-obamacare-repeal/516504/
I want cut scenes damnit.

How can you not like steak?
I'm not sure of the 28% of 60% figure.


I find national polls of 58%, yeah I was mistaken with the 75%, that was actually a figure in certain states where the representatives in congress were totally against it. i.e. totally against 75% of the people they are supposed to represent.


But those figures, in a regime where they are feared into believing that they will get worse healthcare, for some reason be an anomaly among the 30+ other countries that are not lied to via corrupt corporate puppets, are huge.


If North Korea suddenly turned around and 58% of the people told the fat child that they were not the finest nation in the world and neither the USA nor South Korea were a jealous threat wanting to invade, there'd be a revolution.

58% is a HUGE number to not believe the lies they are being told by power.
Casually casual.

Checking in Trump's past:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNodh9OlTrQ


vs

Checking in Hillary's past:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZkK2_6H9MM

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