Fallout 4....the disappontment

Good ol days when Bethesda gave e fuck....but Skyrim and Oblivion were decent.

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DDusk wrote:

1: the amount of content in one w3 map far exceeds all content of f4 map, in detail, npc's, enemies, items scattered, quests etc. In every dungeon u enter in F4 u get a loading screens so..bbye seemles theory.

^this
Fast-travelling: F4 - loadscreen, W3 - loadscreen.
Travelling between world maps: F4(main map/FarHarbor) - loadscreen, W3(Velen/Skellige/Toussaint) - loadscreen.
Delving into in-map dungeons: F4 - loadscreen, W3 - whoops guess what, there are no un-seamless dungeons in W3, they are all integrated in the world.


Also, that's a preference thing, but I like how you don't automatically see unexplored markers on minimap in W3 (opposite to F4 compass) but instead get them from speaking with people or reading some books/notes.
/rant start
Since F3 I can't wrap my mind over that automatic-location-discovery BS. How the f*** does it work, really? Mind you, it isn't only pre-war location that are found by you pipboy, there are many post-war locations with their post-war names popping up on your compass while you can't even see them, like wtf, how does that thing know there's something behind that hill?
/rant end

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DDusk wrote:

2. <...> this point of view is purely subjective and u cant put a WIN on it.

again what he said

3. Well to be fair you can make W3 combat as much dull as FO4 one, just get Sign Intensity to 150%+ and use Igni to burn everything in 2-3 casts. Or get to PoE level and make it 1 cast for anything except bosses :D But I agree you can have an actual feeling of combat if you choose to do so. In F4 it is truly "shoot dem in da face till they drop" with a grain (or craploads, w/e suits your taste) of VATS killcam.

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DDusk wrote:

4:graphics...ARE YOU SHITTING ME, there is 0 similarity, my rig can run both on ultra 2.5k and F4 still looks SLIGHTLY better than f3...witch is dogshit.... no1 and i mean no1 wil ever say they are similar unleas they are just blind....flat out blind.

Yep, that passage about graphics was just hilarious.

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Miazga wrote:

Crafting:
Both games have items crafting systems

Tie

unmodded crafting in F4 sucks. You can't even craft bullets, ffs! Although with mods it is okay, so yeah, tie.

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Miazga wrote:

Still overall I do feel that FO4 have more going for it than W3, unless you are a big fun of Witcher saga and enjoy replaying the books.

ROFL. You don't have any clue about Witcher books, do you?

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Miazga wrote:

I could go on, breaking down each element of the game, but sadly Im in work and dont have all the time I need for it.

Please do when you have time, I need some more of that good laugh.

Presumably the Pipboy uses something known as GPS. Just because the world got nuked to hell, doesn't mean there aren't still functioning satellites out there.

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Nicholas_Steel wrote:

Presumably the Pipboy uses something known as GPS. Just because the world got nuked to hell, doesn't mean there aren't still functioning satellites out there.

As silumit said, that's plausible for pre-war locations like nuka cola factory or a military base, but I got no idea why would it show a nondescript bandit encampment, d or a ramshackle farm. But the satellite theory is also flimsy, if it was so, it would show everything straight away.

Yea but still that's not what breaks the game...
IT'S the 10+ year old engine, with the same boring gameplay without any depth, AND worst of the worst is the trash story with inconsequential dialogue and story options. And that ending...just wow..Mass effect 3 level of trash...

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raics wrote:

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Nicholas_Steel wrote:

Presumably the Pipboy uses something known as GPS. Just because the world got nuked to hell, doesn't mean there aren't still functioning satellites out there.

As silumit said, that's plausible for pre-war locations like nuka cola factory or a military base, but I got no idea why would it show a nondescript bandit encampment, d or a ramshackle farm. But the satellite theory is also flimsy, if it was so, it would show everything straight away.

Also, satellites that work for 200+ years? Hardly believable. But then, you have pipboys and terminals that work for that amount of time, so... yeah... whatevs.

so many witcher 3 fanboyz .... make this thread entertaining. you huffing and puffing staying how much withcher is a better game, yet everytime i start it, first thing that comes to my mind is:

no first person, damn forgot about it, so shit.
then i go into combat and realize who crippled it is.

you all stay quest are shit in FO4, I would say quest are shit in W3.
The dialogues are crap too, you cant kill anyone you want, game is rigid in its base form, modding is shit for it, close to non existent. Overall W3 has nothing going for it, unless you are a massive fan of Sapkowski books.

this is my last 2 cents here, I dont see any point in discussing the superiority of Fallout 4 over witcher 3, when the OP is clearly a massive fanboy and will never be objective.

But its of course your call, you can do what you want.

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Miazga wrote:

The dialogues are crap too.

Which characters did you find portrayed badly? Which were underused and underdeveloped? Which quest was especially poorly executed in your opinion? What made you cringe? Were there any parts that seemed like they didn't come over from Polish very well?

A fan of the book series will indeed be in for a treat (mostly), as it lacked a truly conclusive ending and many interesting characters were only lightly touched upon (this one is interesting, as I find it a recurring trait of eastern europe fantasy books). I personally really enjoyed seeing other witchers fleshed out further.

You need to provide more details because this comes across as 'oh yeah? well I hate everything about your game, whatever it is'.

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Miazga wrote:

so many witcher 3 fanboyz .... make this thread entertaining. you huffing and puffing staying how much withcher is a better game, yet everytime i start it, first thing that comes to my mind is:

no first person, damn forgot about it, so shit.
then i go into combat and realize who crippled it is.

you all stay quest are shit in FO4, I would say quest are shit in W3.
The dialogues are crap too, you cant kill anyone you want, game is rigid in its base form, modding is shit for it, close to non existent. Overall W3 has nothing going for it, unless you are a massive fan of Sapkowski books.

this is my last 2 cents here, I dont see any point in discussing the superiority of Fallout 4 over witcher 3, when the OP is clearly a massive fanboy and will never be objective.

But its of course your call, you can do what you want.

Actually I was a BIG Elder scrolls series fan.
Thats why after playing W3 I saw what was possible and my expectations for F4 were very very hight.
But after playing it and seeing what a lazy reskin of F3 it was...Thats when the disappointment hit me.
Seeing such a small company make something that goes above and beyond what Bethesda did was very eye opening.
Why spend money on new engine new gameplay features when u can feed ur fans the same reskined content over and over and still make oney off theyr dumb asses. Couse u know they will buy it.

Good job CD Project Red for raising the bar of story driven RPG's!!!
And the same to GGG for isometric ARPG's!!!!

Plot and start of game should have been done like this.

https://youtu.be/HpHSzFZaoo8

You have brilliant gear but impossible to maintain until higher level so you risk breaking stuff. It is an absolute wasteland. Pipboy dies. You can't travel further out as you can't avoid radiation clouds. Then you find someone, you have a choice to either kill the person and get the resources you need or join them, combine resources. Has a knock on effect on the plot later etc.

Got some playtime out of it but only because there is NOTHING else at the time. The game felt dumbed down beyond recognition skill system wise and especially path/dialogue wise.